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This thread is about Russia and any events, political or otherwise, that are or might be worth discussing.

Any news, links or posts pertaining to the situation involving Russia, Crimea and Ukraine must be put in the 'Crisis in Ukraine' thread.

Group of deputies wants Gorbachev investigated over Soviet break-up.

Above in the Guardian version.

Putin's war against Russia's last independent TV channel.

No discussion regarding nuclear war. As nuclear weapons are not being used by either side, nuclear war is off-topic.

Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 11:26:10 AM

Gluma Since: Aug, 2016
#7626: Sep 14th 2016 at 11:02:55 PM

Ah, and I also found nothing on Lurka, if you still wonder.

KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#7627: Sep 15th 2016 at 1:19:18 AM

Seems like your usual moral panic: much ado about nothing.

AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Gluma Since: Aug, 2016
#7629: Sep 17th 2016 at 12:55:48 AM

Why even bother searching? There are browser plugins that go past these blocks automatically.

KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#7630: Sep 18th 2016 at 5:43:27 AM

Whenever I hear about us trying to block another site, I keep remembering Lumi's words from some time ago "Behold, I will now mildly inconvenience everything that you hold dear!" Censoring the internet without something like the Great Chinese Firewall is utterly impossible.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#7632: Oct 8th 2016 at 1:55:12 PM

By the way, can Russian terrorists be classified as Far East Asian Terrorists instead of Western Terrorists?

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#7633: Oct 8th 2016 at 2:15:27 PM

No, Russians are far more close to Europe culturally than Asia. They're Eastern European not Far East.

Oh really when?
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#7634: Oct 8th 2016 at 2:25:15 PM

[up] Even if they are from the Asian part of Russia?

AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#7635: Oct 8th 2016 at 2:29:43 PM

[up]I am on the verge of making a remove kebab comment about this, just take as [up][up] said.

edited 8th Oct '16 2:29:58 PM by AngelusNox

Inter arma enim silent leges
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#7636: Oct 8th 2016 at 2:41:16 PM

Yes, you'll obviously get some overlap just like how you get a lot of overlap in say, California with Mexico but it's still Russia and Russia is still very much an Eastern European nation.

Eastern European of course being a different sort of cultural sphere from Western Europe and the Far East.

Oh really when?
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#7637: Oct 8th 2016 at 3:41:54 PM

Even if they are from the Asian part of Russia?
Maybe if they're explicitly from one of the non-European ethnic groups that do live in the Asian part of Russia and possess a distinctly non-European culture. Emphasis on maybe.

edited 8th Oct '16 3:42:28 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#7638: Oct 8th 2016 at 6:38:55 PM

Asking over here because I know there's at least one actual Russian around: how is Russian media talking about the US election, especially right now? I've heard tell that it's been severely biased toward Trump but given I don't speak Russian it's all hearsay to me.

AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#7639: Oct 8th 2016 at 7:54:44 PM

See RT and Sputnik.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#7640: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:11:52 AM

Central Asian and Siberean, people. Those are the designations for the not-very-European bits. Not "Far East".

Central Asia has always had a different cultural way of doing things because of the steppes. And, Siberian "neither Asia nor Europe, but very Arctic Circle" is itself for very cold, forested and tundraed reasons. The Ainu culture of Japan is Siberian, not "Far Eastern". Just ask anybody.

edited 9th Oct '16 6:57:31 AM by Euodiachloris

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#7641: Oct 9th 2016 at 6:11:58 AM

Good thing I qualified my statement with "maybe", then.

edited 9th Oct '16 6:12:12 AM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#7642: Oct 11th 2016 at 4:00:26 PM

Elle - Most of our media treats this election as either a freakshow or a comedy of errors, depending on how willing to launch personal attacks they are, Trump is treated with amused contempt and the overall attitude towards this election is either "poor America" generally or "whoever loses, we win" among the nationalists.

edited 11th Oct '16 4:01:56 PM by KnitTie

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#7643: Oct 11th 2016 at 4:02:46 PM

Anything on how heavily the Russian government is involved in supporting Trump and Republican party?

Oh really when?
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#7644: Oct 11th 2016 at 4:19:33 PM

[up][up]That's interesting, if they're really only pushing the pro-Trump stuff in English language media (there was a thing that come up over the weekend where Trump's team took an inaccurate report from Sputnik and used it at a rally and it was caught by a reporter from Newsweek who actually wrote the thing (taken out of context) the report and the campaign was falsely attributing to a Clinton ally they're demonizing.)

edited 11th Oct '16 4:20:44 PM by Elle

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#7645: Oct 11th 2016 at 8:12:54 PM

[up] The curious bit, which said Newsweek journalist pointed out in his story, is that Sputnik took their story down pretty quickly. Which begs the question of how Trump got ahold of that story.

Disgusted, but not surprised
KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#7646: Oct 11th 2016 at 9:57:21 PM

[up]and[up][up]That's probably less our media supporting Trump and more our journalists being just plain lazy and grabbing sensationalist-sounding articles to repost without putting too much effort into looking at them first.

[up][up][up]There're a couple articles here and there, but otherwise even our opposition media doesn't talk too much about this, since it's considered to be a boring, self-evident fact in the same way that the US supporting anyone who's against Putin is considered to be a boring, self-evident fact.

edited 11th Oct '16 11:22:38 PM by KnitTie

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#7647: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:41:16 PM

Garcon - I linked an interview answering that very question on the US politics thread. NPR interview. Wish I still had the link.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#7648: Oct 11th 2016 at 11:54:08 PM

[up][up] So your journalists are lazy and go for low hanging easy ratings fruit? I guess some things are universal.

Disgusted, but not surprised
KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#7649: Oct 12th 2016 at 3:32:29 AM

[up]They are staggeringly lazy and have a tendency to say things that they believe the government wants them to say without actually consulting said government for details and/or coordinating with other journalists, which leads to very stupid lies every so often. Earlier in this thread we called this phenomenon "working towards the Kremlin."


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