Fantastic Four Reboot

A breakdown? Didn't know that. What caused it?

There is a nice channel on Youtube named "The midnight's edge"...it covers the production of the F4 from start to finish, with very clear sources attached to it (so that you can see what is fact and what you might take with a grain of salt)...let's just say that I don't buy into the narrative of the interfering studio past slashing the budget for the movie early on and insisting on Kate Mare. Personally I am convinced that they ghost directed the end of the movie because if they hadn't done it, there wouldn't have been any movie at all.

I have that video of the Midnight Channel favored. I absolutely loved watching it.

Actually, it would be like if half of the Mona Lisa was done badly and then I said, "The other half of this painting is probably bad as well." It's a reasonable assumption to make.

A new "kid-friendly" Fantastic Four film reboot is in the works.

Ok, this is legitimately frustrating. They are only doing this out of sheer malice at this point, so Marvel can't get the rights and make a bajillion dollars out of using the concept correctly. They keep losing money out of sheer cruelty and it's the viewing public that loses out.

Ahahahahahahahahahhahahahah,

Oh, I hope they go through with this and I hope it bombs once more. I want to see a cinematic black hole.

This needs to stop. There Should Be a Law about this kind of thing.

x2 Didn't Marvel spite them back by killing off the Fantastic Four in the comics?

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?

More like putting them on the bus: The First Family, I believe, are currently repairing the Marvel multiverse road-trip style using Franklin's powers.

I mean, the reboot has some decent ideas (being inspired by The Incredibles, having Franklin and Valerie FINALLY acknowledged to possibly explore their interesting backgrounds and connections), but unless they get some good director (Like Logan and Deadpool) to make the "kid-friendly" approach less of a stigma, it is going to be another unfortunate mess.

Actually, I think is thinking about how one issue of The Punisher (pre-Secret Wars 2015) featured minor characters that were modeled after the cast of Fant4stic...and those guys suffered death by building explosion.

The best part is, a Franklin and Valeria Richards movie would probably be legitimately awesome with some actual setup of the Richards family, within an expansive universe that they can explore.

But if there's anything Fox has proved with its use of Fantastic Four and arguably X-Men, it's that traditional/safe will always trump expansive in their books - even if they were to actually get a FF series/universe off the ground.

edited 20th Jun '17 10:58:00 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

I recall some information recently that was saying how both Fantastic Four and X Men comics had seen a decline, Fantastic Four became cancel-worthy and X Men were merely doing about the same as Iron Man or Captain America when they are normally well ahead of the pack. The success of the movies can be viewed as a major factor.

It's pure business decisions. Marvel doesn't really care about their comic wings. There's no money to be made in comics. Its use is an idea house, creating new I Ps that someday might become movies or tv shows.

So for Marvel, there's no intensive to create new content for X-Men and FF. Any new successful characters they'd make would only serve to benefit Fox.

So Marvel gave the writers orders forbidding them from creating new Mutants. Focusing instead on the Inhumans. It's also why the X-Men have conspicuously vanished from Marvel promotional materials. For Marvel, the meager change a successful X Men comic would make is not worth the risk of giving Fox a new giant IP.

I'm pretty sure that "don't create new Mutants" thing was proven to be bunk. We've gotten some new Mutants before and after that claim

edited 21st Jun '17 11:27:36 AM by windleopard

Come the fuck on Fox. Stop throwing money down the hole. Just cut a deal to give the rights back. It will save a lot of time and effort.

If this was true, they would have cancelled all of the X-Men and Deadpool comics. They didn't. In fact, they expanded them (there are so many Deadpool comics).

Around the time this rumor starting circulating, Brian Michael Bendis was writing the X-Men comics and he was introducing a bunch of new mutants. Including the best mutant ever, Goldballs. So this rumor was never true.

Yes, that's why there wasn't an entire crossover dedicated to them, like Inhumans vs X-Men, or why they aren't a big part of the current crossover, Secret Empire. No, wait, hold on, they are.

Pretty sure they meant promotional materials outside of the comics. Like the new Marvel vs. Capcom almost completely lacking non-MCU characters in its base roster or stuff like this poster◊.

This song needs more love.

This news feels like Fox trying super hard to go in the opposite direction of their previous movie given that their last one was such a colossal failure.

"Ok, so grim n' gritty FF doesn't sell. Let's make a super kiddy one instead!"

Problem is, I don't think Fox really cares that much for the characters? At least not anymore. The Tim Story films weren't super great or anything, but at least with the first one I felt like there was some sort of affection or care in regards to the characters.

That and I feel like it's too soon. Fox really fucked up too because part of the problem with the deal is they need to make movies within a certain timeframe to keep the rights, but when you have an adaptation as bad as the last one, the audience needs some time to forget about it and give the franchise a chance on its own terms.

That's all assuming the movie makes it off the ground of course, but even then, being more lighthearted or comedic won't automatically make it a success; there are multiple ways a film can be bad, after all.

The simple solution is just give the rights back to Marvel, and we all will finally get a Fantastic Four movie we deserve.

Except Doom, who'll be as pointless as most M.C.U villains .

yeah and which movie do you think will be pushed back to accommodate them?

Honestly MCU fans should see this as a boon. Not having access to all their I Ps pretty much forced Marvel to focus on the guy's they had. You think we'd be getting a Black Panther, Captain Marvel or Guardians movie if they had access to Spider-Man, X-Men and Fantastic Four?

It's not a bad idea per se, I mean of the big name heroes of Marvel the Fantastic Four are the most kid friendly. I still expect Fox to balls it up, but it's not a bad idea in itself. I mean if Disney got back the rights and then said that rather than doing an MCU movie they were doing Disney Animated Canon film with the Fantastic Four, would anyone really say it was a terrible move?

They'd have to try really hard to do a worse take on Doom than the two Fox have already given us. Even by the low standards of MCU villains, Hacker-Doom was a travesty.

In fact the silver lining here is that a kid-friendly FF movie might finally be the place to debut a comic-accurate Doom, since there'd be less worry about making him "realistic" (a term that should never be uttered in conjunction with Doom).

edited 22nd Jun '17 8:27:05 AM by comicwriter

There are also recorded instances of merchandisers confirming they were told to not use FF characters on merchandise or apparel.

That seems to be changing though. They are starting to allow X-Men characters into some of the mobile games they were previously barred from.

The should give the Fantastic Four the same feel as the Guardians Of the Galaxy movie, which is emphasis on being a family of misfits and having a lot of camp. Also make sure they are not the ones who cause the problems in the movie.