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That would be a largely pointless twist and defeat the purpose of doing Caitlin-as-Killer-Frost in the first place, so I don't really see it happening.

Heck, if there is a Earth 2 version of Frost (which is very unlikely, since she's not a Golden Age or Earth 2 character), it'd probably be better if it were one of the others - since Caitlin is basically a composite of herself and Crystal Frost, maybe Louise Lincoln.

edited 28th Aug '15 10:31:31 AM by KnownUnknown

Unless Earth 2 Caitlin becomes Killer Frost, kills Earth 1 Caitlin, then takes her place among the Earth 1 cast, with everyone none the wiser until near the end of the season.

Wait, people would probably hate that even worse, wouldn't they?

I know I'd hate it.

edited 28th Aug '15 10:52:20 AM by windleopard

That would be awful.

Man, Earth-2 characters would make the romantic string board even worse.

"Dr. Wells, I need the board!"

"Why do you need it, Caitlin?"

"Barry said he has a date tonight, and I don't know who it's with, and my alternate self has a date and I don't know who that's with either."

"...Isweartimetraveliseasier"

It's not even October yet and I'm already worried about the safety and sanity of these science dorks.

I really hope that we get more of a morally ambiguous killer frost than outright villain. I just...can't reconcile the Caitlin we see and know with trying to kill people? I mean, even if something happens and ronnie gets killed through the fault of Team Flash.....I dunno. and if they pull a "she lost her mind with grief and becomes a murderer" thing, yikes. reeks of abelism and I do not want. but I guess we'll find out and hope for the best.

and I second OT3 hopes.

We can always pray for OT3. Sadly, I do not feel like it will ever happen...

Oh well, at least I'm capable of rolling with most non-squicky pairings.

yeah. my general rule is that if one member of the ship has tried to kill/maim/emotionally torture/ etc other member(s) of the ship of their loved ones, I don't ship it without first that member sincerely apologizing and meaning it. never been a fan of fo-yay (likely because I 100% do not understand sexual attraction and while I know it happens, cannot comprehend wanting to be in a relationship, physical or romantic, with someone who feels little to no remorse or at least not enough to act on it, for hurting the other person(s) in that way)

but other than that I'm pretty open, so long as it's well written. reading some Westhallen ot3 stuff right now that's good. there's a couple major killervibe shippers I follow on tumblr.

Canonically Caitlin Snow's version of Killer Frost is a heat vampire she doesn't really want to kill it happens because she sucks the heat out of everything.

...she has a boyfriend who causes fire and is named Firestorm. To a non-comics fan, this seems like a problem with a self-evident solution.

Or have Barry run really fast in a way that creates friction and generates heat she can absorb.

Or have all the tech geniuses on the team design some kind of solar-power system for her.

Living humans can't be the most efficient source of heat, out of all the options out there.

edited 28th Aug '15 1:50:31 PM by Galadriel

Well, this is comics, so they likely didn't think it through.

That being said, I believe most versions before Caitlin (who I only know through this thread) was bug fuck crazy anyway, so it doesn't surprise me they'd choose to kill people to get the heat they needed, even though they didn't need it.

Or just throw her in a blast furnace every once in a while.

What?

.....

That might actually work now that I think about it.

I mean, Firestorm is probably hotter than any furnace, and she can handle him pretty well.

As far as I know, comics don't have them as a couple.

that's why I feel like they'll kill Ronnie off, so that that stops being an option.

couple dozen hot rice bags continously being put in microwaves though. or I bet Cisco could build something. If he can build those temperature attack shields for the cops, given some time he could probably build a body-brace that generates heat. we still have Welsobard's battery thing, Cisco could work with that. I can't see him /ever/ giving up on caitlin. even if she were freezing him, he'd still be trying to help her because he's a celestial beam of sunshine

also, Ronnie only generates heat when combined with Stein, and the finale said he was back at a normal temperature, so.....

also, working my way through Young Justice. Most surprising thing so far is that the kids were show, on screen, for an entire subplot of an episode, having /therapy/ for a traumatizing event. since when do comics and shows do that? acknowledge the trauma and not just pretend everyone's ok? (not complaing, jsyk. I'm thrilled to bits.)

edited 28th Aug '15 3:45:51 PM by Ellowen

Since Greg Weisman said so.

I also agree the therapy thing was cool.

See that Japan? That's how you do it! Anime should learn a thing or twelve.

And I love Anime.

I fully approve of giving fictional characters therapy. and therapy animals. which reminds me I need to get back on schedule with metakitties.

Like Shinji Ikari in therapy? What Madness are you asking of them?!

What next, sensible clothes for the females? Skirts that go further than the buttcurve?

Madness!

edited 28th Aug '15 4:23:37 PM by 3of4

Better to put him in Therapy than in a Evangelion!

I mean, bad things tend to happen to him and everyone eventually the longer he's in that damned thing. At least in Therapy, he could deal with his issues, and maybe have some hope of not being anymore fucked up than he already is.

He might even be able to move forward.

Then again, this is Shinji, so he'd take one step forward, then have his legs cut off, fall on a bomb detonator, destroy the world, then be blamed for getting his legs cut off, but it'd still be worth a try.

Also, When Wally shows up, I wonder how they'll have him get his powers? Young Justice straight up made him a genius who (near) perfectly replicated the accident that gave Barry his powers, but that's pretty unlikely in this series.

....All the time people wanted Shinji to man up and not whine all the time. To move forward.

AND THEN HE DID! AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED!

edited 28th Aug '15 4:35:25 PM by 3of4

my money's on the Singularity acting like a second PA explosion/dark matter storm, giving people powers.

Not what he did.

What Anno did to him.

What Anno always does to him: let him move forward and get better, so that it destroys him even worse when something goes sour.

Shinji gets set up to fail.

Funny thing, never watched anything of Evangelion. Why would I? I want to feel like the hero has a chance to succeed and accomplish something, and that's not gonna happen, even if it looks like it for a while.

.....So apparently, before the Nu52 retcon, Wally was still the fastest Flash, while Barry was better at the Atom control that let them phase through walls and the like. That's pretty cool.

If they sent Shinji to therapy, the therapist might tell him to stop piloting EVA-01, since the experience is clearly not good for him. Gendo's not gonna allow that.

See.

Kid can't win.

What about my Wally questions? We do need to talk about The Flash here.

At this point, we can't even be sure if Wally's going to be someone who was always around but just wasn't mentioned before, or if the Eobard Thawne paradox rewrote history and brought Wally into existence. Until that's settled, almost anything regarding Wally is up in the air.

I doubt it'll be a " recreated Flash's accident" type thing, or at least not on purpose, given that even Barry at this point doesn't know what chemicals he was exposed to in what doses, unless he tried to figure it all out—and everyone has attributed it wholly to the lightning, so even if Wally's retconned into existence by way of eobard, unless Barry looking into things is also brought in....