Gotham

I smell Epileptic Trees...

He's just a pretty boy killing chicks because he's got mommy issues.

Joker is an equal opportunity murderer, and he doesn't kill people to validate his momrection.

He doesn't have a momrection. I wonder whether he has any kind of rection at all.

Batrection.

That actually rolls off the tongue quite well. "Batrection".

@Soble

The Barbara who gets shot by the Joker is Jim's daughter. His ex-wife in the comics, who this one is presumably based on, is also named Barbara.

And there's the possibility that Jim's eventual wife will be willing to name their daughter after his tragically deceased ex.

I also wouldn't count anyone but the big names surviving to the Batman era. Particularly the ones who are already at the same position as they are best known for.

I know, the Killing Joke. I thought there was a Barbara Gordon that had been shot and actually killed by the Joker?

Might be a mix up.

Barbara Gordon (Batgirl), Jim's daughter, was shot and paralysed by the Joker in The Killing Joke.

Sarah Essen, Jim's second wife, was shot and killed by the Joker at the end of No Man's Land.

I don't want to read earlier comments (stanard fear of spoilers). I stopped watching gotham around the time there hiatus has begun. I'm missing around 3 episode plus the one tonight and my question is:

Does Gotham improve in the last episode and as the general trend? For me, it is on the verge of being worth to watch so maybe if there was positive trend I have motivation to catch up.

Sorry to bother, but the average opinion on TV Tropes forums seems to be close to mine and it is high time to benefit from it.

They're clearly using this season for tooling, so I think it will only get the full benefit of focus next season. Which is to say, it's probably gonna be good, but they're still making adjustments.

New one in a few.

Honesty is the basis of a lasting relationship.

Also, Ed chopped up the body of Officer Whatshisface.

edited 27th Apr '15 5:08:00 PM by Eagal

So judging by the end of last episode, and the start of this one, I think ol' Barbara likes the S&M stuff.

I missed last week's episode, but the Ogre definitely still reminds me of that guy from Outlast.

Lucius!!!

Beat me to it.

I don't know whether disposing of the evidence of a crime using a police station is genius or idiotic.

Ah, so Penguin doesn't actually intend to kill Maroni. Hence the the message before the attack. He wants the hitman to fail and Maroni to react to what was said.

edited 27th Apr '15 5:31:10 PM by KnownUnknown

I wonder where Fish fits into all of this.

And Babs' Scrappy pile just keeps growing and growing.

Barbara could have chosen any mobster in Gotham and she chooses her parents?

Well then.

Ed's first crime riddle. They grow up so fast.

Presumably she wasn't thinking of people she didn't know while he had a knife to her throat. It's likely the Ogre wouldn't buy that anyway.

Barbara's made lots of shitty decisions in this show and has been more of a Conflict Ball than a decent character, and in many respects this arc is more evidence of the latter, but I wouldn't add being tortured into admitting her sordid family history to a serial killer and then being forced to watch as said serial killer murders her parents because of it to the pile of the former.

If anything, the writers have moved on from making her a character who causes conflict by making the exact wrong decision at any time to a character who causes conflict by being a victim. In regards to her character, this is the least she's been at fault all season. The writers who contrived this shit, on the other hand...

edited 27th Apr '15 6:11:45 PM by KnownUnknown

Haven't watched the ep yet (watching Wrestling instead), but I'm going to blame her anyway.

No Sympathy

Stupid Baltimore race riot, I want to watch Gotham!!!

Finally, its about damn time.

edited 27th Apr '15 8:55:08 PM by Skycobra51

And once again, Barbara messes everything up for everyone.

Well, except Jim.

What? I said No Sympathy.

Did y'all think Rob was joking?