Rick and Morty

Pretty sure the main reason for that was that she's a rebellious teenager who doesn't like having a curfew. She doesn't actually care that much about Rick. The whole point is she doesn't care about him until she doesn't get to have her life the way she wants it.

edited 1st Apr '17 9:09:15 PM by xanderiskander

Man I do not like this show. Mostly because the driving force of the entire series is a piece of shit human being who emotionally manipulates and destroys everyone around him.

AND it overrode the new episode of Samurai Jack on my DVR.

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It's been a while so the details in my mind are fuzzy, but I do recall Summer was the only one trying to actually save Rick in "Big Trouble in Little Sanchez" while Morty was constantly blowing her off because he liked Tiny Rick a lot more.

I'm not sure how different the two circumstances are, but something about the new episode seems like it's that same sort of character conflict except there's more dire consequences at stake.

edited 1st Apr '17 9:58:17 PM by NesClassic

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I really hope that when Beth finally joins on an adventure its something genuinely awful where she suffers immensely.

The bitch really deserves to be taken down a peg & have her beliefs in Rick shattered.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

I think they might have made Rick a little too unlikable in his final rant, but considering he was also claiming in it that his entire life's motivation is getting more of that dipping sauce and that he's a cartoon character, I don't know how seriously we're meant to take it.

That being said, between this episodes central theme being "is Rick a Jerk with a Heart of Gold or just a jerk," Rick's promise of this season being "darker," and Morty attempting kill Rick for a second time, I have a feeling this season is probably going to have a pretty emotional (whether bad or good) ending.

And you missed the appeal of the show that made it great. The writers intended to showcase the destruction of having such a character exist from both the perspective of the people around him AND himself. It's not trying to celebrate him for being an asshole, but showing how damaging a person Rick is. It's the same reason why Bojack Horseman is lauded as a great show.

Hell, said episode actually provide a pretty good Freudian Excuse as to why he is a piece of shit yeah he claims he fabricated the memories, but what's the point in him showing a traumatic flashback of him losing his family when all he needed to do was trick the aliens in giving a fake formula just like he did in one episode from season one.

. . . Dude it's April First. Did you really expect Adult Swim who made it a tradition to do scheduling pranks to not pull one this year because Samurai Jack? Hell, I'm surprise it was not a marathon of Perfect Hair Forever but instead a season premiere of Rick & Morty. Best prank ever, I say.

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Here's the difference, though. Bojack doesn't get vindicated for his shitty behavior. Bojack doesn't get to topple an empire, destroy all those who defy him, and get constantly lauded as the smartest man in the universe who gets his way. Bojack Horseman is effective because he's a constant failure who, for all his shortcomings and his constant falling apart, still tries to be a decent person underneath all the narcissism and alcoholism. When Bojack destroys someone else's life, he feels remorse. When Rick destroys his family's life for the fiftieth time, he doesn't feel anything because he's pickled his soul.

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To be convincing. We may not know the exact details but we do know that Rick couldn't make marriage work, so he left. There was no big tragedy, shit just happens, like it does in all relationships, and instead of trying to hack it, he left.

That's Rick's entire deal. He doesn't stick around when things get tough.

edited 1st Apr '17 10:42:50 PM by LSBK

Which is not remorse or regret? Denial is a very clear indication of somebody trying to run away from the mistakes they wish to take back. In Rick's case his overall hedonistic personality is a reflection of him trying to ignore all of the sins and mistake he by projecting himself as this awesome genius who cares about his family but doesn't show it often; but in reality he sees himself as a horrible person who failed so many times that he feels killing himself would do the world a favor.

As a previous poster said, Rick is a complicated individual. He's not a bad guy as there are moments in the show where he actually shows empathy for others and regret over his actions, but he is also not a good guy as he does do horrible shit that would either traumatized his family or ruin the life's of others. In fact this episode kind of sums up how complicated this guy is: he just destroyed two intergalactic/dimensional governments, emotionally manipulated his family, cause a divorce and continue making Morty's life worse just to relive the original family life he (probably) had before the tragic death occurred that caused him to become the sociopath he is today.

True. Though, like the Joker, this maybe one indication/hint as to why he is so fucked up in the first place.

edited 1st Apr '17 11:01:46 PM by BigK1337

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Except that's not true, we've seen him show remorse and we've seen him be proven wrong.

x2

But wouldn't the implication of this origin, even if only some of it is real, that Rick has be traveling to other world's after the death of his Diane and Beth?

edited 1st Apr '17 11:02:03 PM by Cortez

"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"

Yep. Remember the Cronenberg episode, he did this before on multiple occasions.

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No, he said they could only pull this off a few more times. It says nothing on whether he's done it before or how often.

No, it doesn't. His entire thing against marriage is that eve he couldn't make it work, and he's the smartest guy in the universe. "Couldn't make it work" doesn't make sense if his wife (and Beth) died from something out of his control. People don't talk like that.

edited 1st Apr '17 11:10:11 PM by LSBK

No. Not this year. Not now.

It will now be a while before I search for the premiere on my own. I need to.... distance myself from anything related to this show.

x2 Of course he didn't say it. But the nonchalant expression and tone that implies he done this before really gives a nonverbal implication that he did try this stunt beforehand.

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"Tried it before" does not imply "multiple times", nor is it confirmation that he has to begin with. And you're assuming a lot of other things too, just to make Rick more sympathetic.

I liked this first episode of the new season, but it does make the season 2 finale kind of Harsher in Hindsight. I also wish the show was more willing to delve more into proper story and character arcs rather than adventure-of-the-week stories, if only because the universe is so interesting and there's such a colorful cast of one-off and recurring characters that ought to be used more (though I can understand keeping costs down when it comes to voice actors or animation).

"A king has no friends. Only subjects and enemies."

Actually yeah. I kind of see Rick as a sympathetic character. I'm going off the implications the writers are going with in the little details about his character, only because they intended him to be a very ambiguous character. I believe that Rick is indeed a Woobie in his own right.

However, because of said ambiguity, I won't denie the fact he has done messed up stuff in the show that is not worthy of sympathy. I mean sure he wanted to return to a time where he is a loving father who spends time with his family, but the way he achieve it is all kinds of messed up as he literally ruins everything to achieve it. The ending, which calls back the first episode, really drives the tragedy of this whole thing home with him acting like what he did was a lovable act of comedic sociopathy.

If I were to compare Rick to another character, it would be Nox. Both have are Tragic Villains with a sympathetic reason for their genocide, but let's face it I don't condone their actions whether or not they achieve it.

To be fair the entire episode makes everything Harsh in Hindsight from all perspectives. The writers really want fans to feel bad in a multiversal way.

edited 1st Apr '17 11:30:14 PM by BigK1337

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Rick has always struck me as the type of character who you are supposed to acknowledge has gone through some terrible shit, still realize is a terrible piece of shit. Having a sad backstory (whatever it is) doesn't change that, it's frustrating that a lot of works of fiction act like it does, and I'm glad the writers seem to realize that for the most part.

Again, "wanting to return to a timeline where he's a loving father and husband is an assumption'' on your part, that really has no backing.

Rick is a terrific actor. He was acting for the entirety of the alien con-artist episode and seemed entirely genuine. That fake memory seems very much the same.

edited 1st Apr '17 11:35:43 PM by LSBK

Rick is an asshole who only really cares about himself and that sauce, but only beth and summer really worship him. morty cares about him but knows hes an asshole, and jerry cant stand him. rick only had a few close friends, and they are gone now

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Sure it does, besides we know Rick is a liar. Just because he said something, doesn't mean it's true.

Plus we saw his memories when he was "Evil Rick's" captive, which showed him with baby Morty, even though Beth said he left before Morty's birth.

It's kinda why people think the show's Morty isn't out Rick's first Morty.

"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"

What exactly are you responding to with "Rick's a liar"? Because if it's his hatred of marriage and reasons for it (that he just couldn't make it work) that was very clearly genuine with no reason or hint that he was putting up a facade. Contrast that with this fake memory, that served a very clear, stated, purpose.

And you do realize he can come and go as he pleases right? Having memories with baby Morty doesn't mean he's been a constant presence in Morty's life until recently.

edited 1st Apr '17 11:54:55 PM by LSBK

Of course Rick is probably fabricating his origin. I mention before how he is just dropping Joker Multiple Choice Past. And just like that, chances are it could be true or it could be false. Given the ambiguity of the character it is hard to really pinpoint the guy. All that is known is that he is a messed up person who seems to have a lot of baggage to his character that he tries to hide.

edited 1st Apr '17 11:53:43 PM by BigK1337

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Would the universe be better off if Rick Sanchez was dead and buried in a pauper's grave, alone and forgotten to time?

Probably.

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See, that's the thing, Rick's origins might be hard to pinpoint but that's not the same thing as his character.

edited 2nd Apr '17 12:03:14 AM by LSBK

one is at least. I honestly don't see the problem with rick acting the way he does because no one thinks it's a good thing besides beth, and summer part of the time.