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I agree with tweaking the description as suggested.
Hi
That tweak sounds reasonable.
Knows-Many-Things
You know, I thought we tried to avoid using trope names that have very little to do with the actual trope. I mean, Designated Protagonist was fine.
Find the Light in the Dark
iRidescence
I don't see how the new name "have nothing to do" with the trope. Vanilla is a common descriptor for "plain", and that's what this trope is about. "Designated", as someone had earlier mentioned, sounds like "is supposed to be, but not actually is" - which attracts complaining (also, if we use the dictionary's definition, to designate is to appoint, which have even less to do with this trope, because every single protagonist is probably assigned the role by the creator).
There seems to be a bit of a problem with general examples. I can just cut those right?
iRidescence
Examples are not general, so, yeah.
Shall we now YKTTW a Chocolate Protagonist and a Strawberry Protagonist? :)
Hi
Bump; where's this one at?
116 wicks left.
"But considering that First-Person Peripheral Narrator isn't exactly limited to First Person narrative either"
Just to clear up a misconceptions, this trope is in fact strictly limited to First Person narration. It is a narration trope, not a character trope. If you see it used or described any other way, it is probably misuse left over from before we had a TRS thread to fix it and rename it from The Ishmael.
edited 28th Jul '14 9:33:43 AM by Catbert
Bumping. Wicks have been sorted; is there anything else missing in this topic?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Would a Vanilla Protagonist count as a Sturgeon's Trope? Vanilla Protagonist can be used correctly, but often times you wish that a supporting character was the protagonist instead of the Vanilla Protagonist.
edited 28th Aug '14 10:35:33 AM by SatoshiBakura
So this is being move off of the subjective tab correct?
iRidescence
, Tropes Are Tools. Just because there is subjective opinions on whether or not the trope is good/bad, doesn't mean that the trope itself is an Audience Reaction.
Villain Protagonist
Yea, this should no longer be considered YMMV
There's too much of a chance for bitching with a trope like this. When I was updating the name, I saw it used in the same sense as Mary Sue, Spotlight-Stealing Squad and The Scrappy. It should stay in the YMMV for that reason.
(she/her)
Soo, is there anything left to do for this one?
Macron's notes
The wicks are mostly cleaned. I think this should be done. Actually, I thought this was locked already
Seems like the definition tweak that is discussed at the top of this page is done, so I'll close now.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Crown Description:
The trope attracts too much complaining about "Protagonists some tropers don't like"
Go ahead. I have no problem with that tweak.