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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#826: May 19th 2015 at 3:49:55 PM

[up] Clever Bastard's. By the time anyone realizes what a threat China is nobody will be strong enough to challenge them.

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#827: May 19th 2015 at 8:57:39 PM

[up]Yeah, and they just closed the deal on some new SAM systems. All the better to scare those US allies with claims in the area.

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#829: May 21st 2015 at 11:48:41 AM

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I like the way you think Indonesia.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#830: May 21st 2015 at 12:05:23 PM

I thought that headline implied something else, namely sinking a occupied boat with guns. Glad to see the conflict has escalated that quickly.tongue

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#831: May 22nd 2015 at 8:37:28 PM

China buys Tu-22 production line from Russia. A major threat to the U.S. aircraft carriers in the region

For the third time in 7 years (first one being in 2005, second earlier in 2012) several websites in China (link in Chinese) are reporting that China and Russia have agreed for Beijing to buy the production line for the Tupolev Tu-22M3 bomber at a cost of 1.5 billion USD.

Once in service with the Chinese Naval Air Forces the Tu-22M3 will be known as the “H-10″.

Is China really going to start building these supersonic bombers?'

"Unless the Chinese military budget grows at a near-breakneck pace, a development like this would likely impact other equipment procurement and systems development priorities, including ones that are less conventional and more asymmetric," said Aboulafia.

Even if China does build a few dozen Backfires, they may be more for show than anything else.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#832: May 23rd 2015 at 12:07:06 AM

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You think this is a way for them to figure out how to finally make their own engines?

Those islands aren't going to bomb themselves after all.

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#833: May 23rd 2015 at 8:19:16 AM

Bejing Buthurt China has expressed disapproval about the US flying planes over "it's" airspace and photographing "it's" islands. Of course the fact that these are in international waters and airspace is not one China likes to point out. And because the US government has finally grown a bit of a spine

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#834: May 23rd 2015 at 8:29:27 AM

Patrol Planes in the South China Sea

The US recognizes no Chinese sovreignity over the disputed areas, and maintains its rights to freedom of navigation in the area. And to do so, they regularly exercise those rights, often via Maritime Patrol Aircraft such as the P-8A Poseidon. Recently, to show how this plays out, a US Navy P-8A brought along a CNN crew to show just what is involved.

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FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#835: May 23rd 2015 at 8:57:39 AM

[up] This seriously reminds me of a militarized Whale Wars. [lol]

GrandPrincePaulII Imperial knight from Western Eurasia Since: Oct, 2010
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#836: May 23rd 2015 at 9:01:23 AM

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These are not international waters.

Lazy and pathetic.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#837: May 23rd 2015 at 9:04:18 AM

Unless it's within 12 nautical miles of actual Chinese territory (artificial island don't count) yes it is.

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GrandPrincePaulII Imperial knight from Western Eurasia Since: Oct, 2010
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#838: May 23rd 2015 at 9:07:37 AM

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Check the definition of "international waters". The claim of the PRC on at least a part of this region is legit.

Lazy and pathetic.
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#839: May 23rd 2015 at 9:08:29 AM

Mischief Reef? Well they couldn't have picked a better spot.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#840: May 23rd 2015 at 9:12:12 AM

[up][up] I did and the UN convention on the Law of the sea says that territorial waters go 12 nautical miles. Hell I copy pasted nautical miles from the Wikipedia page because I don't trust myself to spell it right.

"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
GrandPrincePaulII Imperial knight from Western Eurasia Since: Oct, 2010
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#841: May 23rd 2015 at 9:20:42 AM

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International wars are not just waters outside of territorial waters, but also the economic exclusive zone.

Lazy and pathetic.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#842: May 23rd 2015 at 9:23:38 AM

[up] Economically the waters might belong to them but I'm just seeing "regulation" being required for overflight and passage, while territorial waters demand "innocent passage".

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#843: May 23rd 2015 at 9:31:46 AM

Uninhabited islands don't create an EEZ according to UNCLOS. It's debatable if China's "nine-dash line" claim to the South China Sea is even valid in the first place.

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#844: May 23rd 2015 at 11:05:27 AM

The only Islands China even has a remote claim to are the Seneko's. Beyond that their claims are utter BS.

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#846: May 23rd 2015 at 11:18:36 AM

Senkaku?

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#847: May 23rd 2015 at 12:36:28 PM

[up] Yeah those ones, sorry for the bad spelling. Japan took them from China during the First Sino Japanese war or so I recall.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#848: May 23rd 2015 at 12:51:09 PM

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Yes. Nobody ever lived there, they're just some rocks. However, they have good fishing waters around it, and supposedly some natural resources. Japan has been managing it ever since. They've done basically nothing with them for a hundred years. Until the recent shenanigans of course.

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Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#849: May 23rd 2015 at 12:59:07 PM

China needs to learn to live with the territory that it actually controls. If it was able to recognize independence of Mongolia, even after Mongolia stopped being communist, why not recognize its present boundaries instead of going after islands? (Yes that goes for Taiwan and Fujian islands too.)

GrandPrincePaulII Imperial knight from Western Eurasia Since: Oct, 2010
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#850: May 23rd 2015 at 1:05:40 PM

Why are the Chinese claims BS? They have claimed the Spratlys since the 1940s and since 1946 the largest Spratly Islands is also Chinese-controlled.

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Mongolia is not Chinese.

edited 23rd May '15 1:06:52 PM by GrandPrincePaulII

Lazy and pathetic.

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