Yeah, that was quite an episode. Very impressive job building up the characters and making us think they were invincible and then roughly yanking out the rug from under us..
Interesting suggestion from someone online- if Tom was the person who is "the mole"/helped the villain and his mercs get inside, then this is really something that "earns" him death (in a way that the possibility of him being an assassin didn't).
That was also an amazing and poignant speech Red gave, and I came away liking Ressler more than I had in any previous episode.
edited 26th Nov '13 5:10:27 PM by Hodor
Edit, edit, edit, edit the wikiIf they hadn't killed off Luli just moments before putting the gun to Dembe's head I would be sure he would be fine. But now I'm not. Which is ballsy of them.
If that is true, then Red will murder him and I will cheer Red on.
I'm frankly impressed at the lengths to which Red was willing to go to save Ressler and vice versa. They may hate each other (well, Ressler hates Red, at least), but that doesn't stop them from saving each others' asses.
edited 26th Nov '13 5:31:01 PM by deathpigeon
I did care for Luli. but your right it was a bold move on the witters part.
They can't for the life of them understand why nobody liked being ruled by a group of manic depressive demigods - 4chanI cared for her as well, but I was not expecting her to be killed. Then she was killed. And then I got scared for Dende.
Hey Kids! Its Alan Alda! Seriously, Alan Alda is on my list of Actors where I could give a crap about the series and simply go to watch Alan Alda...more please!
"You can reply to this Message!"Ok, I'm not sure if Red is lying or not about not being her father.
And what was that deal? I CAN'T WAIT FOR MORE!
So anyone NOT think Lizzy's stalker is Tom ? I can't think of any more plausible option, unless it's completely out of the blue. Suspect he'll do some Big Damn Heroes moment just to muddy the waters on what he's agenda actually is.
edited 23rd Sep '14 5:19:10 AM by Anteres
I doubt it Tom. But it could be the same group that put tom there.
They can't for the life of them understand why nobody liked being ruled by a group of manic depressive demigods - 4chanI haven't seen the new season yet, but I wasn't sure last season if Tom was dead and there was a Gory Discretion Shot, or if it was deliberately ambiguous with the implication that while Elizabeth thought he was dead, he probably wasn't (despite No One Could Survive That!).
edited 23rd Sep '14 6:55:55 AM by Hodor
Edit, edit, edit, edit the wikiNo one ever dies from No One Could Survive That!. Besides, Tom is too personal to kill. Yet.
Wasn't it Berlin who Tom works for ? I assumed it was Tom because they wrapped him up so much (though that could be because they haven't cast an actor in that role yet) and because they focused on the spectacles on the dashboard (not that Assassin!Tom needs glasses...)
edited 23rd Sep '14 7:45:17 AM by Anteres
Yeah, I'm in love with this show and season 2 had a strong opening.
Small detail but...props on using not stock-american trains for the train footage in Warsaw. I actually noticed a Deutsche Bahn locomotive, which is probably not that unusual a sight there.
"You can reply to this Message!"So any guesses on who Lizzy is getting her information from ? Red mentioned a "secret Santa". The only Berlin related people we know are Tom and Gina and I can't imagine her talking to Tom but you never know.
Might be a small thing, but the fact that Red's wife only lost two teeth bugged me. For a big bad psychopath, Berlin seemed to be obeying Beauty Is Never Tarnished. It made it hard for me to see him as all that ruthless.
Edit- Hmm, I realize I am a week behind. Maybe something is different.
Edit2- But unless there is a new development, he also chopped off one of her fingers.
edited 30th Sep '14 6:11:10 PM by Hodor
Edit, edit, edit, edit the wikiUhm. Well. That was...unexpected.
"You can reply to this Message!"Berlin's daughter being alive after all is the biggest Plot Twist yet.
Awesome ending for the first half of Season 2. Two major deaths, and yet another Reveal.
Season 3 trailer is now out; Red definitely still has it.
This show is amazing and stuff.
Anyway, OH. MY. FUCKING. GODS. THE CLIFFHANGER THIS WEEK!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! I CANNOT WAIT A WEEK FOR THE RESOLUTION OF THIS! DEMBE CAN'T BE DEAD! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! HE CAN'T BE!
I mean, I'm sure it was someone else who fired that shot. Like, GRAAAAAH!
This rage is why I love this show' btw. It makes me care, then it threatens to take all my feels and murder them brutally leaving me as a sobbing wreck for I'm sure years to come and makes that a cliffhanger at the end of an episode making me wait a week. This show is brilliant and I am SO PISSED RIGHT NOW THAT THE NEXT PART OF THIS TWO-PARTER IS. NOT. HERE. YET.
I'll be over here in the corner sobbing, now.
edited 26th Nov '13 4:18:47 PM by deathpigeon