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Einander Since: Jul, 2010
#26: Oct 29th 2013 at 11:09:48 PM

I think Touma sees him romantically — as I recall, back in the episode where they were trying to recruit Touma, there was a moment where Ogiso said something like, "after all, you—" and then we didn't hear the rest. She looked annoyed but didn't argue, and I think that was probably something along the lines of, "You like him, don't you?" Especially with the "she doesn't care about anything / that's a lie" moment around the same time and the "she'll be my best friend or worst enemy" at the end.

Plus you've got things like her sleeping in the classroom while he's off doing work stuff, back before he knew who the "elite student" was (likely waiting until he goes to the music room so she could play with him), reading his crumpled up schedule note, the fact she invited him to stay over for a week and worked with him ten hours a day (even if it was an impulse decision to start with)... And "best friend or worst enemy" sounds like a declaration that they're rivals.

I think it's pretty safe to say she's past platonic at this point. He's also had more than his fair share of fond looks towards her in the last episode.

getchman from Cheshire, Ct Since: Apr, 2010
#27: Oct 29th 2013 at 11:11:21 PM

she'll have to do something other than play with his hair

Jigaboo pink from atop a hill Since: Jun, 2011
pink
#28: Oct 29th 2013 at 11:26:45 PM

[up][up] Yeah, I see that. I meant more of as in, like finally taking it really really seriously.

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entropy13 わからない from Somewhere only we know. Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
わからない
#29: Oct 30th 2013 at 3:20:11 PM

[up]Like be all touchy-feely or something? tongue

I'm reading this because it's interesting. I think. Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over.
fillerdude from Inside Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30: Oct 31st 2013 at 7:03:20 AM

I would totally love it if Touma won. She's certainly winning right now.

Pleasantly surprised by this show so far. The lead's not your typical bland protag, the girls, while somewhat generic, have this down-to-earth feel to them and the execution in general is a cut above the usual. I'm wary of the impending drama, but it's a very slight concern. I'm sure I'm going to enjoy Ogiso's drama next episode!

I also like how the lead's best friend knows what's going on. Better than the usual idiot or pervert-type.

edited 31st Oct '13 7:06:17 AM by fillerdude

Jigaboo pink from atop a hill Since: Jun, 2011
pink
#31: Oct 31st 2013 at 11:17:31 AM

[up][up]You know it!gringringrin

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Jigaboo pink from atop a hill Since: Jun, 2011
pink
#32: Nov 3rd 2013 at 4:46:24 AM

Double post. orz

So episode 5 was pretty much Setsuna-centered, but Kazusa is still leading by far. The post credit-scene seems to imply that Kazusa has some sort of illness which she hasn't been telling anyone about. Probably why she spends most of her schooldays snoozing come to think about it. or...has the Japanese cold struck again!?!?

Either that, or she's merely exhausted, but that one line she says seems to point to the former rather than the latter.

I'm enjoying Setsuna's character. She's confident in her feelings and isn't a blushing/stuttering idiot about her affection and interactions with him.

edited 3rd Nov '13 4:53:01 AM by Jigaboo

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Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#33: Nov 3rd 2013 at 7:42:55 AM

My guess is it's later, I mean she said one need at least 8 hours of practice per day to not get rusty and she trained Haruki and was composing on top of that.

HighVelocityPointyThings Since: May, 2012
#34: Nov 3rd 2013 at 2:51:07 PM

This episode is apparently the first glimpse we have of just how manipulative Setsuna is, and should serve as a litmus test for whether or not you'll like her character.

Ruthek from Someplace Rainy Since: Dec, 2009
#35: Nov 3rd 2013 at 2:59:01 PM

Yeah, I'm having a hard time deciding just how aware of her actions she is. She seemed sincere when talking about her fears of being alone and/or abandoned to Haruki, but the way things played out, especially that scene at school where she made him say her name, seemed pretty manipulative. I guess I'm just wary of people who play the sympathy card so openly.

And oh man, Haruki's 'I will never leave you' line is so going to bite him in the ass later. I almost face-palmed at how blatantly foreboding it was.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#36: Nov 3rd 2013 at 7:19:21 PM

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Yes, and we all know its all fair until someone gets run over by a car and is comatose for several years... Wait, wrong show.

Einander Since: Jul, 2010
#37: Nov 3rd 2013 at 7:26:28 PM

Setsuna is much more interesting as a manipulative person, especially if they manage to keep her likeable while they do it. I'm all for people who are proactive about getting what they want so long as they don't push into hurting other people for that, and social maneuvering is fair game. The "say it louder" part had me laughing really hard.

I like that Haruki elaborated on the "I'll never leave you" and modified it to "I won't leave you until you leave me." Either that's a sign of very well-handled abandonment issues (doesn't seem likely; he didn't react enough) or he's being careful to write out an obvious problem.

I liked the scene with Touma at the end. "Hey, stop that, I don't have time to be sick" is totally the kind of thing you think when feverish and/or intensely sleep-deprived.

HighVelocityPointyThings Since: May, 2012
#38: Nov 3rd 2013 at 8:20:21 PM

Part of anybody's opinions on Setsuna at this point depend on what she's looking for: Acting the way she did because she didn't want to be the third wheel is one thing, acting the way she did because she's trying to claim Haruki for herself is something else. I'm guessing that this becomes an increasingly important distinction to make as the series progresses.

Edit to add: The dynamics within the trio are interesting. Haruki yields to Kazusa, Kazusa is easily manipulated by Setsuna, Setsuna is dependent upon Haruki.

edited 3rd Nov '13 8:23:25 PM by HighVelocityPointyThings

Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace Since: Jan, 2001
Taller than Zim
#39: Nov 4th 2013 at 12:39:15 AM

I keep thinking they're going a bit slow and won't have time to do anything interesting this cour, but maybe they'll surprise me.

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MarquisDev LOVE WINS from somewhere in the West Since: Aug, 2011
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#40: Nov 4th 2013 at 3:38:19 AM

Acting the way she did because she didn't want to be the third wheel is one thing, acting the way she did because she's trying to claim Haruki for herself is something else
My apologies if I seem stupid for this, but I honestly don't get what you mean. Aren't the two the same thing?

"If music be the food of love, PLAY ON" - William Shakespeare
Jigaboo pink from atop a hill Since: Jun, 2011
pink
#41: Nov 4th 2013 at 5:04:56 AM

[up][up][up] Couldn't have said it better myself. Though, they all all do have a certain sway over each other to a certain extent I'd like to think.

I did naht.
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#42: Nov 4th 2013 at 11:34:55 AM

I've just heard Sound of Destinynow I understand why Touma broke down in laughternote ...

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HighVelocityPointyThings Since: May, 2012
#43: Nov 5th 2013 at 9:10:11 PM

[up][up][up]

The difference is that in the first case she's making sure she's not forgotten, which is something any healthy, well-adjusted person would do. In the second case she's trying to interfere with a (potential) romantic relationship, which paints her in a considerably less attractive light.

Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#44: Nov 6th 2013 at 1:19:16 AM

"Healthy" person doesn't have need such confirmation, In Setsuna case it only shows her self-deprecation instead. But yes, that interference isn't that atractive either.

edited 6th Nov '13 1:22:57 AM by Tenzen12

HighVelocityPointyThings Since: May, 2012
#45: Nov 6th 2013 at 6:30:17 PM

[up] I was using 'Healthy' in the context of making sure that she's not simply an unwelcome tag-along, but I think you got my point.

Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#46: Nov 7th 2013 at 2:59:24 AM

Do I?

...I guess I do. still can't say I agree as my previous statement can be still applied here.

fillerdude from Inside Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#47: Nov 7th 2013 at 5:02:57 AM

I was really amused when Haruki crossed out Ogiso and wrote Setsuna instead.

Jigaboo pink from atop a hill Since: Jun, 2011
pink
#48: Nov 7th 2013 at 6:15:18 AM

I still can't get over the guitar/schlick scene. I mean, just, damn, O_O

I did naht.
Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#49: Nov 10th 2013 at 12:04:20 AM

Wow, I wonder how much more can Setsuna get third wheeled[lol]

But seriously, she is ticking time bomb and I don't wanna know how far will Haruki have to go to defuse her or what will be needed to be sacrifice.

HighVelocityPointyThings Since: May, 2012
#50: Nov 10th 2013 at 8:11:56 PM

In case it wasn't obvious, the song they wrote at the end happens to be the show's OP. The lyrics are a big part of the reason why Setsuna got upset; as for all intents and purposes it's a love song from Haruki to Kazusa.

Also, we get a chance to see how Kazusa deals with abandonment, and maybe a tiny preview of her backstory.


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