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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#51: Aug 22nd 2014 at 9:28:11 PM

That's what he wants you to think, but in truth he's that pen.

NotGrantMorrison I'm not this pen either Since: Jul, 2014
I'm not this pen either
#52: Aug 22nd 2014 at 11:10:40 PM

Bollocks if I was really Grant Morrison I'd do something wild and Hypercrisisy like making the 52nd post in this thread.

I'm totally not Grant Morrison
bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#53: Aug 23rd 2014 at 6:12:24 AM

That would be silly. Why would Grant Morrison be on tvtropes?

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#54: Aug 23rd 2014 at 6:22:42 AM

[up]Why wouldn't he be on TV Tropes?

edited 23rd Aug '14 6:22:57 AM by kkhohoho

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#55: Aug 23rd 2014 at 9:15:59 AM

[up][up][up] I see what you did there. [lol]

deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#56: Aug 23rd 2014 at 6:21:02 PM

what all earths are confirmed for what number. like i know 0-3 is important dc verses, 7-8 is marvel, 23 is mary-sueperman, and wasnt the image one 41? and supers sons is 16 even though that should be young justice.

Anteres Since: May, 2010
#57: Aug 24th 2014 at 9:46:04 AM

Not Grant Morrison can't be Grant Morrison. The real Grant Morrison has an Scottish accent so thick even other Scots can't understand it. While I understand Not Grant Morrison perfectly.

That's logic, that is.

shiningknight S.E.A captain from Professor Xavier's school for gifted lesbians. Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
S.E.A captain
#58: Aug 24th 2014 at 10:32:35 AM

I understand grant morrison.....admitedly I am from the same part of glasgow hes from...

also earth 16 is apparently the future of young justice if the cover of just 1 is anything to go by

" I did the right thing, didn't I? It all worked out in the end." "In the end? Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends."
NotGrantMorrison I'm not this pen either Since: Jul, 2014
I'm not this pen either
#59: Aug 24th 2014 at 1:58:44 PM

The earths got reshuffled quite a few times. E 16 is The Just though the implication is Young Justice was one of there reenactments.

even in fiction the Greg Weisman curse is real.

I'm totally not Grant Morrison
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#60: Aug 25th 2014 at 5:56:41 PM

I think Morrison said neither he nor his editors were aware Earth-16 was the YJ Earth, but that he'd done some slight rewrites to make it possible for it to be seen as a 20 Minutes into the Future version of Young Justice.

andersonh1 Since: Apr, 2009
#61: Aug 27th 2014 at 10:25:18 AM

Good first issue. I enjoyed the Marvel analogues and the appearance of Harbinger. Morrison seems to remember that comics should be, among other things, fun. And there is a lot of fun to be had with the "anything is possible" attitude to the series. On the more dramatic side, there's a destroyed world and a lot of dead heroes along with some strange monstrous entities.

My favorite idea in the book: that heroes in one world are comic book characters in another. Or rather than what happens in one universe appears in comics in others. Barry Allen used to read Flash Comics featuring Jay Garrick after all, way back in the 50s.grin

I enjoyed it more than most comics I've read recently.

edited 27th Aug '14 11:00:26 AM by andersonh1

NotGrantMorrison I'm not this pen either Since: Jul, 2014
I'm not this pen either
#62: Aug 28th 2014 at 5:55:03 AM

So any annotations you guys looking forward to?

I'm totally not Grant Morrison
canondorf Since: Sep, 2009
#63: Aug 29th 2014 at 1:34:58 AM

Fuck that let's make our own.

The Endless exist in a descending order as the multiverse expands internally and grows in complexity.

Destiny permeates the entire universe and exists on the border of the Source Wall, straddling the Overvoid.

Death exists in Nil and the eight Limbos.

Dream resides in the Godsphere, where he has an entire realm: this is because the New Gods are not affected by him, and the four over/underworlds exist independently, only their specifics being determined by the beliefs of the germ-people (the New God worlds are furthest from the Dream realm, and the four over/underworlds exist next to it). Destruction is the Speed Force barrier: matter cannot exist beyond here. Also, as Destruction divides his older siblings from the youngers, so does the Speed Force barrier separate the mortals from the immortals.

Desire is the Bleed: the first issue including the Bleed in the DCU opens with Superman massaging Lois Lane's heart, he helps the monitor out of desire to help Lois, and the Bleed is described as the secret substance of life itself, desire being the main reason why mortals with a mind do anything (Ecclesiastes: All is vanity). Animals are capable of destruction, and dreaming, and dying, and are on the web of fate, but to truly desire something and bend all will towards it requires a conscious mind: this is the way the Bleed feeds the universes. The Bleed isn't a panacea, it's a magic lamp.

Despair is the material of the worlds: base matter which transcends its vulgar trappings, because Despair never wins in the DCU. The material world is separate from God and exists in a constant state of debasement, and when Joker looked in the puddle, and when you turned your back and the Pig crept in, they were infected by the sickness of the universe but in turn infected it with what they lost: their humanity.

Delight/Delirium are the two sides of the coin of theophany. She was created when the first hairy shaman took mushrooms and spoke and accessed the higher world, and the higher world bled through and created the House of Heroes, and the House of Heroes manifested in the first world through the Superman, and the Superman was seen by the higher world, which modeled the House of Heroes after him. What Delight saw outside Destiny's which turned her to Delirium was the universe reflecting on itself infinitely like a four-dimensional liquid diamond turning inside-out over and over and growing more complex, and in each iteration Destiny is defied.

edited 29th Aug '14 1:35:26 AM by canondorf

TheConductor Since: Jan, 2011
#64: Aug 29th 2014 at 4:30:14 PM

I like that one of the main cast members is quite blatantly Savage Dragon.

NotGrantMorrison I'm not this pen either Since: Jul, 2014
I'm not this pen either
#65: Aug 29th 2014 at 5:03:16 PM

[up][up]I fucks with this $%$% , you should hit up the Twittersphere or 4chan

I especially love the conflation of The Bleed with Desire, because it's the most sexual of the cosmology (the womb, the menses, Space semen etc.)

edited 29th Aug '14 5:07:08 PM by NotGrantMorrison

I'm totally not Grant Morrison
canondorf Since: Sep, 2009
#66: Aug 30th 2014 at 10:33:05 PM

I wrote it on the fly on 4chan, they seemed to like it but the thread died. They pointed out that the Bleed debuted in Ion so I'm going to have to correct for that at some point.

And yeah cat dude, I can't wait to see Spore.

edited 30th Aug '14 10:35:04 PM by canondorf

NotGrantMorrison I'm not this pen either Since: Jul, 2014
I'm not this pen either
#67: Aug 31st 2014 at 7:27:05 AM

My brutha...

I'm totally not Grant Morrison
andersonh1 Since: Apr, 2009
#68: Sep 17th 2014 at 12:30:07 PM

Issue 2 had a lot of nice re-invention of old characters. Doc Fate, Al Pratt, the Immortal Man vs Vandal Savage, Abin Sur as the Green Lantern in an outfit clearly based off Alan Scott's original... all fun riffs on old characters. There's a lot squeezed into the issue, just like last time. This exercise of Morrison's in world building, one per issue, is working well so far. I hope the rest of the series is as enjoyable.

edited 17th Sep '14 12:31:57 PM by andersonh1

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#69: Sep 17th 2014 at 6:08:20 PM

I especially liked the little magic "duel" they threw in there that lasted for a magnificent grand total of two panels. [lol]

NotGrantMorrison I'm not this pen either Since: Jul, 2014
I'm not this pen either
andersonh1 Since: Apr, 2009
#71: Sep 18th 2014 at 5:11:29 AM

[up][up]The duel was hilarious.

Faust: it's your magic versus mine, Fate! Abracadabra...

Fate: Hey presto! *kicks him in the crotch*

Fight over. Too funny.

edited 18th Sep '14 5:11:53 AM by andersonh1

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#72: Nov 27th 2014 at 9:57:07 PM

So I've read Pax Americana and...I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm not even sure I follow the plotline.

Anyone else do a better job of making heads or tails of exactly what was going on with it?

shiningknight S.E.A captain from Professor Xavier's school for gifted lesbians. Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
S.E.A captain
#73: Nov 27th 2014 at 10:37:22 PM

it is daunting on a first read but once you follow captain atoms advice it becomes so much easier to figure out

basically the unseen presence of the gentry is bring earth 4 close to war. Peacemaker has uncharactistically assassinated the president and this causes a set of dominoes which causes a witchhunt of masked heroes. Also the question is looking into the murder of a hero called yellowjacket. as well as those two threads theres various world building flashbacks

tldr: its morrison parodying watchmen using the original characters

" I did the right thing, didn't I? It all worked out in the end." "In the end? Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends."
Canondorf Since: Sep, 2009
#74: Feb 2nd 2015 at 11:32:08 PM

Connecting the faint circles in the orrery map you find a head-on symbol of a blooming flower.

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#75: Mar 25th 2015 at 9:42:19 PM

So...Ultra Comics.

I think I get what was going on, but it still strikes me as the biggest WTF mind screw of a comic I've ever read.

I'm pretty sure that Grant Morrison is crazy. Not the bad kind of crazy, mind you, but he's still pretty well out of his mind when you get right down to it.


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