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treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#1: Oct 10th 2013 at 12:00:39 AM

Following up from this TRS thread, the examples need a workover for what fits (some examples fall into other tropes, this isn't about being confused by something nor simplistic or detailed design alone), what's a ZCE and bare weblink examples as well as a check for wicks and if they need fixing as well.

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#2: Oct 10th 2013 at 1:40:43 AM

Courtesy Link.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3: Oct 11th 2013 at 8:44:47 AM

I did comment out all the Zero Context Examples.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#4: Oct 11th 2013 at 12:55:25 PM

Okay, I'll have time this weekend so I'll make a list of examples which I find problematic.

edited 11th Oct '13 12:56:48 PM by treelo

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#5: Oct 13th 2013 at 4:33:35 AM

Done the examples check and though Septimus Heap commented out the worst (thanks), I'm still ambiguous on many of the rest because most examples (including a lot of the ZCEs) stretch across most artistic styles used commonly in advertising in the last 20-30 years making it little more than a place for complaining about design you don't like and I feel like that level of ambiguity and whining puts it firmly into YMMV territory if that damn title doesn't do it for us.

Away from the soapbox though as we've done the TRS thread, there'd only be three or four legitimate examples given what I think is this trope so need a little hand going through what's there right now.

edited 13th Oct '13 4:38:54 AM by treelo

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#6: Oct 13th 2013 at 4:37:20 AM

I think that a mixture of art styles that makes the item look very stylized is actually more like a good qualifier for the trope.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#7: Oct 13th 2013 at 4:44:43 AM

Maybe but I'm just concerned our definition isn't defined enough and comes down to "artsy fartsy visuals" in many people's eyes and what that means isn't consistent going from the examples, the mixture of styles could be what the trope is about but I don't know how many agree or at least it makes me uncertain anyway.

edited 13th Oct '13 4:46:44 AM by treelo

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#8: Oct 13th 2013 at 6:37:49 AM

I'd say that the mixture of art styles and high stylization are components of this trope.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#9: Oct 16th 2013 at 8:04:21 AM

It's a distinctive style, and I think the page image conveys it well. The Game Of Thrones example seems questionable (the title sequence is on You Tube somewhere, judge for yourself), but nothing else jumps out as problematic.

Are we sure we need a concerted effort on this one? It looks like it's healthy enough to judge on a case-by-case basis like any average trope.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Oct 20th 2013 at 2:19:42 AM

I don't think so, and the OP has messaged me to say that they don't see a need for continuing this anymore.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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