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Mort08 Pirate AND writer! from Oklahoma Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#51: Nov 19th 2014 at 9:23:20 AM

I'd take most anything over the climax from the original. I'm sorry, but I absolutely hate the mice.

But yeah, this looks surprisingly good. All the acting looks decent, and I can't overstate how glad I am that they seem to be trying to avoid Gritty Reboot Syndrome.

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#52: Nov 19th 2014 at 9:27:19 AM

[up] Well, the ripping scene looks like they toned it down, but I guess that's hard to realize in life action.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#53: Nov 19th 2014 at 10:39:07 AM

Looks pretty promising. And it seems to pull off homaging the animated film's colorful style without looking garish. This might be fun to watch.

Half the folks in the trailer's comment section are arguing about the "historical accuracy" of the one black guy...

DS9guy Since: Jan, 2001
#54: Nov 19th 2014 at 11:56:59 AM

[up] Then they would go gaga over the Disney adaptation of the Rodgers & Hammerstein musical. tongue

minespatch Since: Sep, 2009
#55: Nov 19th 2014 at 7:32:26 PM

What's bugging me is how the evil stepmother and sisters are constantly calling her "Ella". Just... Why?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#56: Nov 19th 2014 at 9:41:27 PM

Because that's her actual name. And sometimes it's cumbersome to use their nickname for her all the time.

Trope page here.

edited 19th Nov '14 9:41:35 PM by Tuckerscreator

DS9guy Since: Jan, 2001
#57: Nov 19th 2014 at 11:17:46 PM

The youtube comments are giving me a headache as usual. If they want to complain about how Hollywood racial casting, they picked the wrong movie.

edited 19th Nov '14 11:19:35 PM by DS9guy

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#58: Nov 19th 2014 at 11:22:39 PM

Eh, I'm sure Branagh's used to it. "You put a black guy in an European monarchy! The horror!"

DS9guy Since: Jan, 2001
#59: Nov 19th 2014 at 11:34:09 PM

[up] I mean that they cast white people in general.

...seriously? SERIOUSLY?!? IT'S BASED ON THE FRENCH VERSION OF THE FAIRY TALE! WHAT DID YOU EXPECT TO— *deep breath* If they really want to make a stand, they should complain about that Moses movie Ridley Scott is doing.

Anyway, I do like what I see so far.

edited 19th Nov '14 11:39:16 PM by DS9guy

swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#60: Nov 20th 2014 at 12:10:42 AM

Concerning "Ella"...that is American nonsense. Neither in the original fairy tale nor in the movie is her real name "Ella". In the original tale, her real name is never given, and in the movie, Cinderella is claimed to be her real name. But I have given up to be irritated about it years ago.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#61: Nov 20th 2014 at 2:12:24 AM

The Perrault and Grimm versions imply it.

She would often arise covered in cinders, giving rise to the mocking nickname "Cinderella".

They banished her into the kitchen to do the worst chores, and gave her the nickname "Aschenputtel" ("Ashfool".)

She must have had a name before her father remarried.

swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#62: Nov 20th 2014 at 2:46:23 AM

[up]Yeah, but it was certainly not "Ella". In the Grimm version, she is called "Aschenputtel", in the Bechstein "Aschenbrödle", and in the French "Cendrillion". None of those name contain "Ella" in it, and Cinderella is nothing more than "make it easier for the English speaker" version of Cendrillion. Ella sounds strangely modern for a Fairy tale.

edited 20th Nov '14 2:47:04 AM by swanpride

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#63: Nov 20th 2014 at 8:07:02 AM

Well the main character's gotta have a name, so why not Ella? In the context of the movie it would make sense for those watching it. If you can accept the casting you can accept the more modern names tongue

Edit: SEVEN HELLS, I just watched the Trailer and Cinderella marries the King in the North?

Hopefully the wedding works out better [lol]

edited 20th Nov '14 9:35:04 AM by Mr.Didact

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Psychobabble6 from the spark of Westeros Since: May, 2011
#64: Nov 20th 2014 at 11:34:27 PM

[up][up]So, fairy tales kind of take on a life of their own. They are more about the spirit of the storytelling than about the specific details of the stories. Cinderella is given no initial name, so it has become an accepted part of the modern version of her story to give her a name. Since no individual made this choice, we all sort of collectively agreed Ella was a decent guess. I just looked it up and Ella has existed as a name on its own and as a diminutive of longer names for hundreds of years (although it apparently wasn't all that common in Cinderella's time), so it's not totally historically inaccurate to give her that name. It's just an odd thing to get angry about because there's nothing in the original story or any version of the story to suggest that it isn't her name. This telling is essentially an adaptation of the version we have all agreed we like. Most of its elements are taken from the Disney version, but one or two, such as her name, have been added over the years.

Anyway, there are some interesting things here. Yet another live action remake, although bonus points for this one not being a gritty reboot. Hopefully the script and acting and all the other things will be good enough to make up for the plot. (I only say that because, come on, we all know this story really well).

Enter obligatory wedding joke here.

And if I claim to be a wise man, well, it surely means that I don't know.
minespatch Since: Sep, 2009
#65: Nov 20th 2014 at 11:40:31 PM

Ella just sounds too modern for me. I'll get over it. tongue

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#66: Nov 21st 2014 at 7:59:35 AM

[up]And too much like Elsa.

I am curious though, after two "Female Empowerment" films in Frozen and Maleficent, how will people handle Cinderella? tongue

Hodor Cleric of Banjo from Westeros Since: Dec, 1969
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#67: Nov 21st 2014 at 2:32:39 PM

Had a question- So, I was looking at our page for the film and it mentions how with the casting of Nonso Anozie, people were questioning the presence of a black man in the 1600s. Other arguments aside, I definitely didn't get the impression from the trailer that the movie was set in the 1600s, even if the cartoon was.

The trailer gave me the impression of an Edwardian setting (or something along those lines). Although the "palace people" are wearing old fashioned clothing, it's the kind that royalty still wear on special occasions/royal guards still wear, and Cinderella and her family all had on fairly modern looking clothing.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#68: Nov 21st 2014 at 2:58:00 PM

I wrote the entry, and it's true the "1600s France" thing is stronger in the Disney animated film, which based the most on Perrault's French version. Mostly I was just looking for a better word than "medieval"; Cinderella doesn't seem to quite fit medieval despite being in a time of kings and castles. Branagh is probably going for more of a fantasy country.

swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#69: Nov 21st 2014 at 3:08:57 PM

It always was a fantasy setting...last time I checked France never qualified as "little kingdom".

Hodor Cleric of Banjo from Westeros Since: Dec, 1969
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#70: Nov 21st 2014 at 4:32:16 PM

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Didn't mean to "call you out", but at least judging from the trailer, I wouldn't think the setting is Medieval. I'm not sure it fits any real world setting, but at least judging by the clothing, I'd figure something along the lines of 1890-1910.

Which leads me to think that the position of those criticizing the casting is "Black people in Europe? That's unpossible!"

Edit- Interestingly, I remembered Brannagh's Hamlet adaptation, and the costumes look pretty close to that. The general feel is late 1800's. Reminds me of the (1898) art for The Prisoner of Zenda.

edited 21st Nov '14 4:36:55 PM by Hodor

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kalel94 Rascal King from Dragonstone Since: Feb, 2011
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#71: Nov 21st 2014 at 11:05:44 PM

Ken Branagh is doing this? Huh, that news along with the kind of charming (no pun (if that's even the right word) intended) trailer has given me a boost of confidence in this film.

The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
lexicon Since: May, 2012
#72: Nov 22nd 2014 at 12:17:57 AM

I wonder what Cinderella's interaction with the prince will be like. In the Disney version they didn't say a word to each other.

minespatch Since: Sep, 2009
#73: Nov 22nd 2014 at 6:12:16 PM

[up]They did in the scene where she had to leave due to the magical fairy clause.

Sisi Since: Oct, 2012
#74: Nov 22nd 2014 at 9:34:55 PM

...I'm just excited to see Cate Blanchett rock Lady Tremaine. Also glad to see the classic Dress Rip sequence and the scene where Tremaine locks Cinderella away.

And the prince has astonishingly blue eyes.

edited 24th Nov '14 5:17:29 PM by Sisi

randomanama Since: Oct, 2013
#75: Nov 25th 2014 at 5:07:16 PM

I admit, Cinderella is my least favorite of the Disney Princess roster, so I really hope this movie can make me a fan. Also, was that the Young Wolf fencing with Xaro Xhoan Daxos XD? I hope so—I really like Nonso Anozie.


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