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#76: Dec 11th 2013 at 9:11:35 AM

[up][up][up] ...not sure if mistaking me for earnestly agreeing, or being even more sarcastic.

Well-played.

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#77: Dec 11th 2013 at 11:20:16 AM

I do what I can.

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srebak Since: Feb, 2011
#78: Jan 14th 2014 at 11:50:08 PM

I guess when it comes down to it, my view of Batman has been "rocked" so to speak.

For so many years, i've watched shows and movies that focused mainly on the heroic view of the Dark Knight, with there only being 4 occasions where any negative talk about him had any effect on me (and not by much at first):

1. The Gotham city councilman's rants against him in "Mask of the Phantasm"

2. One reference to him in "Superman the Animated series" and three others in the crossover "World's Finest"

3. The episode "Trial" from "Batman the Animated series"

and

4. The first season of "The Batman" (the second season was lighter on it, especially with Bats working with someone on the Police force

Still though, all of that was overlooked in my eyes, partly because i was only seeing Batman as a hero and easily dismissed any character belief that he wasn't. This was nowhere near a problem for me in the later episodes of "The Batman" and the entirety of "Batman: The Brave and The Bold", both of which showed Batman as a hero and nothing else. This was how my opinion of the "World's Greatest Detective" was for years, but when i saw how he was viewed in "All-Star Batman" and in "Beware The Batman", my POV was rocked.

I don't think i ever really had an opinion on vigilantism, only that I initially dismissed it as something you'd only see on television shows or in movies, so that was a never something i took into account when thinking about Batman (ironic, i know). But now it is and it bothers me, especially since i heard negative words about Batman coming from Commissioner Gordon (his long time GCPD liaison) in "Beware the Batman" and from his fellow heroes (particularly the other 2/3 of the DC Trinity) who would later be on the same team with him.

Another factor that i think plays a role in this change in POV is the fact that i've long been stating that DC comics heroes are given more praise and respect in regards to what they do than the heroes of Marvel comics, who are often seen as criminals and are frequently chastised and demonized by people like J. Jonah Jameson and Senator Kelly. Seeing Batman be treated no better than Spiderman sort of flushes that theory down the drain

SuperSoaker Since: Oct, 2013
#79: May 21st 2014 at 6:33:39 PM

[quote]"Let's look at things from his perspective: his parents were killed right in front of his eyes, even if it was a random stranger, witnessing that alone would scar any child his age. "[/quote]

You're asking what the public within the DC Universe has against Batman. THEY DON'T KNOW THAT.

[quote]"Also, people say that Batman is a lunatic, but when you think about it, if that were true, "[/quote] To quote Bale Bruce Wayne "Well anyone who dresses up like a giant bat CLEARLY has issues"

[quote]"And one also has to take into account the matter of the Robins. Take what happened to Dick Grayson for example: like Bruce, his parents were murdered right in front of his eyes. There was no guarantee that he would follow Bruce's same code of ethics, so for all we know, if Bruce hadn't taken Dick under his wing, he would have gone mad because of his grief and become criminal in his own right. As for Tim, near as i can tell, he felt that Batman still needed someone like Robin to keep him from going down the dark path that he's done a remarkable job of keeping away from already."[/quote]

Also stuff nobody in the public of Gotham is privy too. You know what they do know? He puts underage boys in danger.

edited 21st May '14 6:34:16 PM by SuperSoaker

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