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Zarastro Since: Sep, 2010
#7251: Jun 28th 2016 at 2:49:40 PM

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The spirits that Erdogan called... . That happens if a) you allow radical Islamists for years to use your country as a recruitment center because they'll dispose of your political rival (Assad) and b) start a civil war against the Kurds in order to gain domestic support.

FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#7252: Jun 28th 2016 at 2:54:23 PM

Anyone claim responsibility yet?

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#7253: Jun 28th 2016 at 3:01:28 PM

Whoever it is, chances are the Sultan's actions did prompt them and the other attacks in recent times, yeah?

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#7254: Jun 28th 2016 at 3:06:39 PM

Sure, but the response will differ depending on who is responsible. If Kurds, the current Turkish actions in the insurgency gets notched upwards. If Daesh....I can't imagine they'd actually deploy the full might of the Turkish Army even after this, so more artillery strikes/

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#7256: Jun 28th 2016 at 4:06:33 PM

Even if ISIS claims responsibility, the Sultan will go after the Kurds anyway.

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#7257: Jun 28th 2016 at 4:58:56 PM

ISIS seems to be avoiding claiming responsibility for attacks in Turkey so as to give the Turkish goverment the chance to do just that. The Kurds will claim responsibility if it is them, if we here nothing it's probably ISIS but will be blamed on the Kurds.

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Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#7258: Jun 28th 2016 at 6:49:46 PM

The GDS says that it points to IS and the attacks started when security guards were trying to inspect their bags via x-ray machines.

Decided to go all out before the guards found what they carried.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#7259: Jun 28th 2016 at 8:34:37 PM

36 dead and 147 injured (as of now, according to CNN) but could this have been much worse had they gotten through security? An attempted hijacking even?

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#7260: Jun 29th 2016 at 4:19:17 PM

(Video) Stratfor Vice President of Tactical Analysis Scott Stewart examines the tactics used in the attack on the Istanbul Ataturk Airport: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lipfZaiGksc

More attacks will be coming unless they find the handlers quick. Whoever gave them the training and weapons are still at large.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#7261: Jun 30th 2016 at 1:16:29 AM

My newspaper did run an article today about the most recent attack in Turkey, with the following points:

  • The attack happened despite the increased security measures.
  • The Turkish government appears to have neglected the ISIS threat for far too long, with its focus on the PKK.
  • The intelligence community apparently committed egregious errors with no consequences when these errors cause things to go awry.
  • Criticisms of the anti-terrorism policies get dismissed as "treasonous".
  • The media tend to become the government's mouthpieces, investigations produce results very quickly but with little accounting for later inconsistencies.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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#7262: Jun 30th 2016 at 1:19:50 AM

Turkey hasn't neglected ISIS, they're funding and arming them. And the Turkish government is fine with letting it's citizens die in these attacks because ISIS is trying to wipe out the Kurds.

Oh really when?
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#7263: Jun 30th 2016 at 1:25:02 AM

Well, yes, but they have neglected the threat it may pose to them. The thing about using someone as an asset is that that asset often has plans beyond being your asset.

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#7264: Jun 30th 2016 at 1:57:24 AM

We see this sort of thing too much in history. An organization sees a group they think they can manipulate, then it turns out whoops they have their own agenda

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#7265: Jun 30th 2016 at 6:55:18 AM

Too early to say if this is relevant to the thread but just saw it pop into my notifications

"U.S. Joint Base Andrews on lockdown over active shooter report" - http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0ZG1X7

EDIT: Looks like it was a false alarm. Got a new notification saying "No threat to Andrews Air Force base, there was a 'misidentification' of security forces: officials"

edited 30th Jun '16 9:11:57 AM by sgamer82

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#7266: Jun 30th 2016 at 1:16:02 PM

[up] A false alarm is a good thing, really. Best outcome.

Airstrikes exact heavy damage on Daesh forces fleeing Fallujah: https://www.stratfor.com/situation-report/iraq-airstrikes-exact-heavy-damage-militants-retreat-fallujah

Airstrikes against Daesh convoys fleeing their defeat in Fallujah exacted a heavy toll against the militant group, Iraqi military representatives said June 30, AFP reported.

Strikes beginning late June 28 targeted a massive Daesh convoy fleeing the group's last positions to the city's west, reportedly destroying more than 200 vehicles and killing many militants, an officer said. The convoy was said to be heading south out of the city toward the desert when the strikes took place.

Another round of strikes on a Daesh convoy to Fallujah's northwest destroyed around 60 vehicles, a high-ranking military representative said.

They must have thought the air support would focus only on the city proper and they could slip away somehow, or they thought "Okay if we ALL go at once some of us will make it out."

Did some looking around for footage, seems that an Iraqi helicopter squadron took out the convoy. Some Daesh fighters abandoned their vehicles and split up, but left their weapons behind. Looks like a lot of US weaponry that was stolen by them during the early parts of this conflict have now been recovered.

edited 30th Jun '16 1:25:04 PM by MayuZane

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#7267: Jun 30th 2016 at 1:24:26 PM

[up][up]Someone I know in there says it was a tourist freaking out after seeing a group of "armed men" and calling 911.

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#7268: Jun 30th 2016 at 1:52:52 PM

[up] Armed men in a military base? Whatever next? smile

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FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#7269: Jul 1st 2016 at 12:12:14 PM

hostage situation in Dhaka as I type this. Police are holding back due to terrorists lobbing grenades at them.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#7270: Jul 1st 2016 at 12:24:37 PM

CNN reported at least 20 hostages in the cafe.

Bangladesh also had another machete murder recently, another Hindu priest was attacked and killed outside his temple.

edited 1st Jul '16 1:03:07 PM by Rationalinsanity

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#7271: Jul 1st 2016 at 12:45:25 PM

Said cafe is also a popular spot for expats and foreigners due to proximity to the embassy quarter of the city.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#7272: Jul 1st 2016 at 1:02:53 PM

CNN reports at least 2 LE Os dead.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#7273: Jul 1st 2016 at 2:16:36 PM

ISIS has claimed responsibility for the cafe attack, there are 2 dead and 40 injured (toll is expected to rise).

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/01/asia/bangladesh-dhaka-shooting/index.html

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Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#7274: Jul 1st 2016 at 2:45:20 PM

What the hell is happening in Western and South Asia these days?

edited 1st Jul '16 2:49:46 PM by Bat178

MayuZane I made my own avatar from SPACE Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
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#7275: Jul 1st 2016 at 3:23:01 PM

[up] Extremist leaders taking advantage of people's frustrations mixed with a government terrified to fight the fanatics at full force because they are unsure if they could have the people's support for an anti-terrorist campaign and risk falling further down the hole.

It's like seeing a spearman charge at you with a crowd next to you but you don't know if anyone will help you if you try to stop the spear, and you don't do anything because you're scared of finding out for yourself that nobody cares about you.

Though there have been thousands (18,000 people) arrested, the leaders are still at large.

edited 1st Jul '16 3:23:25 PM by MayuZane

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