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Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#7151: May 25th 2016 at 12:42:49 PM

[up][up] Seems they've been getting stupider and stupider.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#7152: May 25th 2016 at 3:18:46 PM

The smart ones have either already fled, to become sleeper agents that we actually have to worry about, or dead, or too smart to come in the first place.

Daesh collectively consists of Abu Hajaars at this point.

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#7153: May 25th 2016 at 7:04:19 PM

That's impressively silly.

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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
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#7154: Jun 1st 2016 at 10:43:54 AM

Alienation grows in Brussels district that bred Paris attackers

When Moroccan-born former boxer Mohamed Idrissi orders a young man out of his gym for smoking, the respect is tangible.

The youngster stubs out his cigarette and leaves, head bowed. Inside the gym, the muted thud of leather gloves striking punchbags resumes.

Idrissi's influence goes beyond his job as a coach at the Brussels Boxing Academy, near the Molenbeek district of the Belgian capital where Islamist militants, several of them of Moroccan origin, planned last year's deadly Paris attacks.

He also has an informal role mentoring youths facing what Reuters interviews with local officials, social workers and residents of Molenbeek suggest is a growing feeling of alienation and increasingly tense relations with police.

Building trust in communities such as Molenbeek is seen by police as vital for gathering intelligence and countering the threat of Islamic State, and respected local figures like Idrissi have a part to play.

"Boxing is a philosophy which I tell them to apply in life," Idrissi said of his young boxers at the gym in a primary school in central Brussels, across an industrial-era canal from the halal shops, tea parlors and mosques of Molenbeek.

"I tell them: 'You have to fight to be Belgian'," said the 34-year-old, who deserted from the Moroccan military police a decade ago while taking part in a boxing competition.

Since the Nov. 13 bloodshed in Paris, security has been tightened in Molenbeek, a district described by its own mayor as a "breeding ground" for violence, and many Muslims say they feel stigmatized.

Idrissi is angered by frequent police checks of people with Moroccan roots which he sees as racial profiling although police deny this. But he bites his tongue in the presence of young men to avoid repeating "the kind of comments we warn parents can feed into their radicalization."

Some parents, he says, have turned to him to talk their sons out of plans to join Islamist militants in Syria. Police also visited the gym this year as part of a program to improve their image with youngsters.

At least five men who trained there have traveled to Syria. One, Ayoub Bazarouj, was detained in December on suspicion of having links to the Paris attacks, in which 130 people were killed. He was released in January without charge.

Another, Ahmed Dahmani, was arrested in Turkey last year on suspicion of scouting out sites for the militant strikes. Police released a photograph of Dahmani at the gym, holding his fists up as if ready to throw a punch at the camera. Belgium asked for his extradition from Turkey earlier this year.

Idrissi declined comment when asked about his interaction with police over some of his young charges going to Syria.

"LATENT ISLAMOPHOBIA"

A failure to stop the militant cell behind the Paris attacks from carrying out more bombings — 32 people were killed in bombings on the Brussels metro and at the city's international airport on March 22 — has highlighted the police lack of knowledge of Molenbeek and their few ties with its residents.

The police are also hard pressed to overcome the fear of IS that discourages possible informants. One resident, Hawa Keita, has received death threats since informing on the network that enticed her son to Syria and says: "We live in fear."

Having eyes on the ground is vital for plugging the intelligence gaps, many officers say.

"It's not enough to bug phones: you need to know what you are listening for," Andre Jacob, a former head of Belgium's State Security agency, the Surete de l'Etat.

As in similar communities across Europe, Belgian police are struggling to build bridges with young Muslims at the same time as they hunt for militants. They have carried out dozens of raids and arrests in Belgium in recent months.

The Interfederal Centre for Equal Opportunities (UNIA), an advocacy group which also works with police on rights issues, says the number of calls to its hot lines complaining about alleged abuse by police has jumped since the Paris attacks.

Its director, Patrick Charlier, witnessed what he called latent Islamophobia in workshops his organization conducted with police before the Paris attacks. Such sentiment, he suggests, is now out in the open.

"We all of a sudden had a number of cases (of complaints against police)," Charlier said, but declined to give figures, saying it was too soon to assess.

Residents in Molenbeek are angered by some of the comments made about the Muslim population in Belgium, including the interior minister's suggestion that many Muslims danced in celebration after the Brussels bombings. [nL5N17L13C]

"Being rejected, relegated to trash schools, it's not surprising it ends in bombs," said 48-year-old Milodi Rahma. "We are doubly victimized: victims of IS and of Islamophobia."

"US AND THEM"

Belgium has announced a 39-million-euro ($44 million) plan to improve police coordination in Brussels, including boosting staff in Molenbeek for the first time in two decades. The district now has an eight-person unit, whose task is to prevent radicalization.

But tight budgets means police can end up wearing two hats.

"One day they're taking part in a big violent raid and the next they're supposed to go out and chat," said Vincent Gilles, who heads the Belgian police union. "A community policeman needs to be seen ... as a partner, not an enemy."

The suspicion cuts both ways in Molenbeek, where the IS cell spent months planning the Paris carnage and where one suspect, Salah Abdeslam, hid with what many officers believe was the blessing of the community.

"You can't tell me no one knew where he was," said Kris Vanstraeten, a police inspector in the area.

When police did find him, some youths hurled glass bottles and insults at them.

Molenbeek mayor Françoise Schepmans, who made her comment about the district of 95,000 being a nest of violence two days after the Paris attacks, says the police have a difficult role and relations are as good as they can be.

"It's there to handle security, not to babysit," she said.

But she says too few police know the areas where they operate. Of 50 federal officers sent to work in Molenbeek after the March bombings, none was even from the capital.

"Sometimes we have young policemen who arrive and say 'Uh-oh, where am I?'," said local police spokesman Johan Berckmans.

Acknowledging that breaking down barriers was difficult, he said: "It's always a question of 'us and them'."

(Additional reporting by Alastair Macdonald, Editing by Timothy Heritage)

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#7155: Jun 1st 2016 at 11:26:57 AM

Cutty, is that you?

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#7156: Jun 1st 2016 at 12:02:20 PM

... That mayor should know that it's people like her who help perpetuate the problem she's complaining about.

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#7157: Jun 1st 2016 at 12:07:48 PM

"One day they're taking part in a big violent raid and the next they're supposed to go out and chat," said Vincent Gilles, who heads the Belgian police union. "A community policeman needs to be seen ... as a partner, not an enemy."

Don't mess up the Good Cop Bad Cop routine!

edited 1st Jun '16 12:08:05 PM by TheHandle

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#7159: Jun 2nd 2016 at 6:55:56 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] This is why integration/assimilation is the way to handle migration. "Ethnic quilts" sound good in theory, but in reality it just leads to everyone viewing other groups like their fucking aliens and shit like this happens. I hope Europe learns something from this. Europe must become more Islamic, but Islam, especially it's followers in Europe, must become more European. Sorry for my mini rant.

[up][up] Their budgets are to small to afford two cops, one guy has to do both. Might as well hire scytzophrencis. They probably couldn't do any worse than some of the cops we have here in the states.

edited 2nd Jun '16 6:56:57 PM by JackOLantern1337

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Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#7161: Jun 5th 2016 at 12:35:27 PM

[up] Huh. You normally don't hear news about Central Asia.

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#7162: Jun 6th 2016 at 2:25:29 PM

So the Ukrainians arrested a suspected far-right terrorist, who was armed to the teeth and had plans to attack Muslims/Jews/the French government.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36460569

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#7163: Jun 6th 2016 at 2:31:55 PM

@Jack:

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Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#7164: Jun 6th 2016 at 5:48:20 PM

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20160607_03/

Tokyo's trying to get a Japanese man released from the hands of Al-Nusra.

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#7165: Jun 7th 2016 at 2:58:12 PM

There was another car bomb in Istanbul, 11 dead, no group has claimed responsibility but the PKK are being blamed by the Turkish goverment.

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#7168: Jun 8th 2016 at 12:28:27 PM

THAT is weird. The ruling party of Bangladesh isn't exactly Islamist....

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#7169: Jun 8th 2016 at 12:29:11 PM

I don't think antisemitism/antizionism are associated solely with plain Islamism...

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#7170: Jun 8th 2016 at 12:38:07 PM

It isn't, but while Bangladesh isn't particularly friendly with Israel, they aren't generally the type to get into foreign conspiracy type theories.

hamza678 Red Like Santa from Christmas Beacon. Since: May, 2015
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#7171: Jun 8th 2016 at 12:46:52 PM

Why would Israel even do that? I fail to understand what they could possibly gain from it. I mean, I can understand them attacking countries like Iran, but Bangladesh is far away, and doesn't really seem to pose a threat.

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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#7172: Jun 8th 2016 at 12:55:00 PM

Someone spun the wheel of blame and the pointer landed on Jews/Israel option.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#7173: Jun 8th 2016 at 11:02:33 PM

[up]

Nice to know things haven't changed for a few thousand years...

Meanwhile, Convicted terrorist to be stripped of Danish citizenship, court rules

edited 8th Jun '16 11:03:36 PM by TerminusEst

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#7174: Jun 9th 2016 at 4:48:08 AM

[up]Citizenship-stripping should be illegal.

19 yazidi women burned to death in Mosul for refusing to have sex with jihadists.

Ramsay Bolton's country, that is...

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#7175: Jun 9th 2016 at 8:15:01 AM

A man who joined Daesh was captured by Kurdish forces and returned to the U.S. to face trial. Of note, he said "My message to the American people is — the life in Mosul, it’s really, really bad,”

I think we're going to be hearing a lot more of these kinds of testimonies: People who joined the group but quickly realized it wasn't all it was cracked up to be. Which, of course, is a good thing and will hopefully slow people wanting to join.


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