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hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#451: Oct 5th 2014 at 10:40:11 AM

Hater works much better than Wander for a main character.

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
azul120 Since: Jan, 2001
#452: Oct 5th 2014 at 6:08:15 PM

It depends, really. I don't see them getting any more mileage in the long term out of Hater eps. I see Wander/Hater more as deuteragonists/foils.

That being said, there was some amazing playing with tropes.

minespatch Since: Sep, 2009
#453: Oct 5th 2014 at 7:02:55 PM

That was the funniest episode for me. so much work the animators went through to comebine pencils, spray, and digital. It's all so seamless.

BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#454: Oct 19th 2014 at 9:08:40 PM

So Hater has his very own Prison Pit, eh?

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#455: Oct 25th 2014 at 5:43:07 PM

http://imgur.com/mFKddoQ

From The Void, one of my favorite episodes along with The Box.

edited 25th Oct '14 5:43:31 PM by ReaccuringExtra

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Cyberguy64 Hee hee... let's practice medicine. from Denial Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#456: Dec 1st 2014 at 8:36:26 PM

So... the stinger at the end of The Rider. Who is it? My money is on Hater's Dad.

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#458: Dec 2nd 2014 at 10:38:41 AM

[up] No... Sylvia's MOM.

Even if I had different face, I AM STILL DISGRACED.
DS9guy Since: Jan, 2001
#459: Dec 2nd 2014 at 10:58:27 AM

When Sylvia is talking about missing Wander in "The Rider", she says, "It's as if he's... magic." The tone of her voice and the expression on her face when she said that makes me wonder if Craig is going to reveal anything about our furry orange friend in season 2...

attercop Since: Jul, 2013
#460: Dec 3rd 2014 at 3:38:09 PM

[up] Same. If it turns out to be significant I don't get the impression Wander knows. I just caught up on a few episodes at once and I have to say, The Funk gave me legitimate warm fuzzies over the unequal and borderline abusive relationship between an evil overlord and his right hand man. Should I be concerned.

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#461: Dec 3rd 2014 at 3:51:27 PM

I'm glad the Funk wasn't all about how Wander keeps winning that puts Hater down this time. Also, it was nice to have Wander and Sylvia just pop in at the end thinking nothing ever happened here.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#462: Dec 3rd 2014 at 6:32:08 PM

[up][up] Well, we do know his hat is alive and possibly magical - like Felix's Bag of Tricks.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
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#463: Dec 3rd 2014 at 6:32:46 PM

[up] No Argument There. Episodes like these do somehow manage to endear me to Lord Hater. Just a shame I bet we're not supposed to like him, despite how likable he is.

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DS9guy Since: Jan, 2001
#464: Dec 3rd 2014 at 10:37:53 PM

[up] ...about that. Here is what Craig McCraken said in an interview with Jim Hill in the Huffington Post:

You know, I couldn't bring this up to Disney when I was originally pitching Wander to them. But I've always felt that it's Hater's show. I mean, Wander's the star of the show. But Hater's the protagonist. He's the character that has the most to learn over the course of this show and is the one who most needs to grow. And so Hater's the character that you sympathize with the most because he's the most flawed. Whereas Wander... He's the guy who's kind of got it figured out, who's got his stuff together. I mean, Wander has some flaws. But he's really the guy who's guiding Hater to his future or wherever he's going to end up.

edited 3rd Dec '14 10:38:45 PM by DS9guy

scythemantis first insect politician from Oregon Since: Nov, 2009
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#465: Dec 4th 2014 at 11:46:34 AM

Yeah, Hater is the fan favorite and crew favorite.

He's too childish and incompetent to not feel sorry for, and we're presumably going to learn more about why he is the way he is.

In that same interview, Craig basically confirms that they're working towards making Hater a more redeemable character, too.

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#466: Dec 4th 2014 at 11:51:26 AM

Maybe they'll introduce a straight villain who IS IN NO WAY appealing or identifiable, to help steer Hater toward redemption a bit. I don't think he should turn 100% good, because that will never be him, but we do have some sympathy for him.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#467: Dec 4th 2014 at 3:15:26 PM

[up]I feel like that's going to be the type of character we saw in the stinger of "The Rider".

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#468: Dec 4th 2014 at 3:45:19 PM

I still can't stop chuckling at how Lord Hater is wearing sneakers.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#469: Dec 4th 2014 at 4:15:23 PM

Even if he sticks to villainy, Hater has a very strong classic cartoon villain vibe, where the focus is as much as if not more on him than the good guy. Kind of a Wile E. Coyote sort of feel.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
adam850 Since: Dec, 2009
#470: Dec 12th 2014 at 12:22:03 AM

I just watched two episodes yesterday, and found myself laughing. Not just smiling, or thinking, "that was clever". I'll be keeping an eye out on my channel guide for this show in the future.

(Lonely Planet and Brainstorm, The Gift 2 and 1)

minespatch Since: Sep, 2009
#471: Dec 12th 2014 at 12:30:27 AM

Gift 2 was awesome. Rewatching it was just as fun as the first time but Gift 1 was weaker due to the change in soundtrack. The music was obnoxious but I still like Gift 1.

BagOfMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#472: Dec 13th 2014 at 3:04:16 PM

Dumb snowflake... bein' flaky...

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#473: Dec 26th 2014 at 6:07:11 AM

wild mass guess At some point Wander is going to say "grasshopper", Hater will first think he's mocking him, then consider that perhaps Wander does have a lot to teach him, and finally notice that Wander was talking to a passing bug all along.

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
MahStache from Old Jersey, not the bad new one Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#474: Jan 4th 2015 at 5:37:17 AM

Don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but I think this show should be the page image for something. Maybe Freeze-Frame Bonus, or White Void Room.

edited 4th Jan '15 5:52:41 AM by MahStache

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#475: Jan 4th 2015 at 3:14:43 PM

Current WVR source is a better match to the concept of actually having a room that only seems voided.

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."

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