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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1651: Sep 16th 2014 at 10:36:40 PM

So I don't know if this is like the General Godzilla Franchise Thread or not but I was reading the Godzilla Trope Page and came across this:

Take That! Here's an example of a Take That that doesn't involve Zilla. The Curb-Stomp Battle in Final Wars involving Hedorah and Ebirah (both of whom Godzilla launched out of the water and into a building, with the latter accidentally stabbing the former in the eye) could be easily interpreted as one, as producer Tomoyuki Tanaka wasn't exactly happy with Godzilla vs. Hedorah (to the point where he told vs. Hedorah director Yoshimitsu Banno to face that he ruined the Godzilla franchise).

If this is true, then that Tanaka guy is a real jerk and I hate Final Wars even more than I used to. Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster is one of my favorite Showa films. (and Showa is my favorite era)

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#1652: Sep 16th 2014 at 10:40:05 PM

I don't think that was the intention. I think it was more Hedorah had a scene that was cut and they didn't want to waste the costume.

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#1653: Sep 17th 2014 at 3:31:16 AM

"could easily be interpreted" is Weasel Wording, so it's probably nothing but fan wanking, and thus not an example.

[edit] [down] It could be removed... except I already did it, right after making this post. grin

edited 17th Sep '14 4:04:18 AM by Nohbody

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1654: Sep 17th 2014 at 3:52:18 AM

Well I guess it should be edited off the page then. I was just looking for talk about Hedorah ya know, 'cause I love that monster and that movie, and stumbled upon that entry.

NateTheGreat Since: Jan, 2001
#1655: Sep 18th 2014 at 6:35:12 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YsnZ4bYIjs#t=11

Could someone who actually watched the movie verify that the King of the Monsters was only onscreen for EIGHT minutes of the movie's 123 minute running time? Another reckoning says it's more like eleven minutes, but I still say that's too little.

edited 18th Sep '14 6:35:23 PM by NateTheGreat

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#1656: Sep 18th 2014 at 6:48:45 PM

Nah, more like 20, really.

About the same as the other movies in the franchise, for the most part.

edited 18th Sep '14 6:48:54 PM by Demongodofchaos2

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PRC4Eva Since: Jan, 2001
#1657: Sep 24th 2014 at 8:53:05 AM

Just a reminder that it's not that Godzilla's screentime was necessarily the problem, just that director here seemed to take delight in trolling the audience by playing kaiju peek-a-boo. It's okay to have him on screen for only twenty minutes if it's an epic twenty minutes. Not so much when it'd be him tail-whipping something and then cut to the cookie-cutter humans.

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#1658: Sep 24th 2014 at 9:06:51 AM

Except that happened in his first appearance in the original movie, we only get a shot of his foot crushing a building, then it's back to the human story.

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#1659: Sep 24th 2014 at 9:42:21 AM

Personally, I found the human story more interesting in the original because Godzilla is a new thing in and out of universe.

In the new godzilla the audience all knows godzilla and they're waiting to see godzilla. I think that's why there was a negative reaction to the peekaboo.

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PRC4Eva Since: Jan, 2001
#1660: Sep 24th 2014 at 11:23:39 AM

Right, you can't do a reboot the same way you did the original. In the original (which I hadn't seen), Godzilla was something bright and new. Scenes like that contribute to buildup when you see the big guy for the first time. You don't have as much leeway in reboots, though. Everyone knows what Godzilla is and what he looks like, so it doesn't have the same effect. Instead of feeling like a build-up, it feels like you're the baby in a carriage while your drunken aunt keeps teasing you with a rattle and pulling it out of reach when you try to grab for it.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#1661: Sep 27th 2014 at 2:20:56 PM

Is the regular DVD less dark? I'm really angry for the Blu-Ray

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#1662: Oct 2nd 2014 at 2:28:43 PM

Cinema Sins did a video for this movie.

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#1663: Oct 2nd 2014 at 4:37:08 PM

They did one for Your precious Pacific Rim, too.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#1664: Oct 2nd 2014 at 4:38:27 PM

I know. Just like to link the videos.

Also, I don't dislike this movie. Just feel that it could have done with a bit more focus on Godzilla and less on one of the most boring human characters I've ever seen.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#1665: Oct 2nd 2014 at 4:38:49 PM

Basically, the complaints that have been repeated since the film opened.

Addition: The more Godzilla shows up, the lower the film quality has been. Look at any Godzilla film with Godzilla Jr.

edited 2nd Oct '14 4:41:45 PM by GethKnight

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#1666: Oct 2nd 2014 at 4:38:50 PM

Someone's angry over nothing.

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#1667: Oct 2nd 2014 at 5:11:42 PM

[up][up][up]what Geth Knight said can be applied to your post.

Also. Geth Knight meant Minya, not Heisei Godzilla junior.

edited 2nd Oct '14 5:12:18 PM by DemonGodOfChaos2

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#1668: Oct 2nd 2014 at 6:23:27 PM

I loved that the Atomic Breath wasn't used right away. It's a weapon that, when used too much, becomes boring and you end up having to use it to fly so that it's cool again. And even then it's still a stupid idea and I can't believe it was even implemented, good fucking God the 70s were a weird time for everyone .

edited 2nd Oct '14 6:23:44 PM by GethKnight

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#1669: Oct 3rd 2014 at 9:21:15 AM

Not that stupid if you see Godzilla as being like a dragon. Because then you ask why wouldn't he breath fire? It being atomic is just because he's a nuclear dragon.

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#1671: Oct 3rd 2014 at 9:35:24 AM

That's not how a dragon works. tongue A flying dragon would have wings, and might be a glider. They'd use the fire breath to warm the air around them and create artificial thermals they could float higher on.

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#1672: Oct 3rd 2014 at 9:37:16 AM

[up][up]Oh. I'm sure they had a Perfectly Good ReasonTM for that.

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#1673: Oct 3rd 2014 at 9:41:02 AM

Yeah, they wanted the movie to stand out above the rest of the Godzilla flicks.

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#1674: Oct 4th 2014 at 8:50:57 PM

Saw this today.

It had some problems, but overall, I thought it was pretty good.

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#1675: Oct 4th 2014 at 8:53:50 PM

Rewatching some of the Heisei Gamera trilogy, its odd how much it reminds me of what Godzilla was trying to do.

The mystic-ishness would even fit well in those movies, Gamera being a super turtle built by atlantis maybe to protect the Earth by getting into exciting monster vs monster fights.

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