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#1: Jun 12th 2013 at 3:32:10 PM

I have no idea what tropers mean when they say that.

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#3: Jun 12th 2013 at 3:56:25 PM

[up]Really? Huh, I learned something new today. Whatever it means, they shouldn't be using it. It's almost always used as part of a Zero Context Example.

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#4: Jun 12th 2013 at 4:17:25 PM

"Natch" is one of those cases where people think they're using "breezy" language (from the TVT front page) when it's more "airheaded". tongue Fire, kill with, whenever seen.

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#5: Jun 12th 2013 at 5:08:12 PM

I would like to point out that usage of "natch", from comments I've seen on here, depends on local dialect. For instance, I use "natch" sometimes in my normal speech, because it's part of my local idiom. (I avoid it on TV Tropes, because this isn't the first time I've seen inquiries here regarding its meaning, so it's clearly not universally known.) There's nothing "airheaded" about it, and calling it such is rather offensive.

If it's being used as a Zero Context Example, though, it's bad, but that's only because ZCE are bad.

edited 12th Jun '13 5:10:24 PM by Nocturna

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#6: Jun 13th 2013 at 12:25:49 AM

I personally think of it as nothing more than Word Cruft.

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#7: Jun 13th 2013 at 12:48:19 AM

Good word on its own. Not so good in examples. Except if quoted.

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#8: Jun 13th 2013 at 12:54:52 AM

Outside of the site I've seen it used with a negative context to it, like a single word "no duh".

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#9: Jun 17th 2013 at 7:41:12 PM

One way I could see myself using it is in certain contexts where "of course" might be used sarcastically, like when making fun of someone's hypocrisy.

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#10: Dec 19th 2014 at 3:52:08 PM

It has now been added to the Word Cruft page, along with the other hated ones used in ZCE's. At least you can search for this one, unlike AND HOW!, A Troper saying it (and how! not natch) to me in person would get glared at.

edited 19th Dec '14 3:52:49 PM by TheOneWhoTropes

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#11: Dec 23rd 2014 at 6:21:57 PM

I was wondering about the date difference between posts, but reading it, a solid [tup]

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