So apparently the Turkish (State) Media is attacking Germany again....according to him Merkel is now worse than Hitler.
Erdogan is really taking advantage of the fact that Germany will try to avoid an open conflict as long as possible, isn't he?
Isn't Berlin considering serious economic sanctions? The Sultan should be careful.
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Well, Berlin is considering a slap on the wrist....stopping the Hermes cover (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes_cover)
which would be a hit to Turkish economy - though personally I think that every businessman would be crazy to start a venture there at this point - stopping the pre-EU membership payments (that is money the EU pays to states who request membership so that they have an easier time to fulfil the requirements) and the Federal Foreign Office is now warning tourists to be careful. Sounds like a lot, but is actually nothing more than a warning. Germany could easily cancel a number of agreements with Turkey and declare the country as not safe for travel.
The problem is that Erdogan will simply use all this as "proof" for the racism of the Germans.
Might as well do it. You can't win the argument.
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True. But I have the feeling that they will delay that particular confrontation until the election is over.
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
Turkey has issued a Travel Warning to Germany
Okay, now they are trolling us....if there is anyone who has a reason to issue travel warnings, it's Germany who can't trust that Turkey won't just arrest peaceful travellers in their little power plays.
Turkey detains two more German nationals
edited 12th Sep '17 12:47:51 AM by TerminusEst
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Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
Can't we just send a few KSK to bust them out?
(I'm not serious. Yet)
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Turkey signs landmark Russian weapons deal
The purchase of the surface-to-air missile defence batteries, Ankara's most significant deal with a non-NATO supplier, comes with Turkey in the throes of a crisis in relations with several Western states.
"Signatures have been made for the purchase of S-400s from Russia. A deposit has also been paid as far as I know," Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said in comments published in several newspapers on Tuesday.
"Mr Putin (President Vladimir Putin) and myself are determined on this issue," he told Turkish journalists aboard his presidential jet returning from a trip to Kazakhstan.
Moscow also confirmed the accord, with Vladimir Kozhin, Putin's adviser for military and technical cooperation, saying: "The contract has been signed and is being prepared for implementation."
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The purchase of the missile systems from a non-NATO supplier is likely to raise concerns in the West over their technical compatibility with the alliance's equipment.
The Pentagon has already sounded the alarm, saying bluntly that "generally it's a good idea" for NATO allies to buy inter-operable equipment.
But Erdogan said Turkey — which has the second largest standing army in NATO after the United States — was free to make military acquisitions based on its defence needs.
"Nobody has the right to discuss the Turkish republic's independence principles or independent decisions about its defence industry," he said.
"We make the decisions about our own independence ourselves, we are obliged to take safety and security measures in order to defend our country."
He said Moscow would extend a credit to Turkey for the purchase of the weapons.
Quoted by Russian state-owned TASS news agency, Kozhin said the deal was fully in line with Moscow's strategic interests.
"For this reason we fully understand the reactions of several Western countries which are trying to put pressure on Turkey".
However signing the deal does not mean that delivery is imminent, with Russia facing a high demand for the S-400s from its own armed forces and key clients like China and India.
Some analysts have suggested the message sent to the West by the military cooperation between Moscow and Ankara is as important as the delivery itself.
In 2015, Turkey scrapped a $3.4 billion deal with China to build its first anti-missile system.
edited 12th Sep '17 1:02:14 PM by CenturyEye
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Can't we make an exchange? Russia guarantees that it will leave the eastern European states (and the Ukraine) alone, in turn we cut all ties with Turkey and leave it to fend for itself.
I get that you aren't being serious, but there's two problems with that plan. First, you can't use other countries as a bargaining chip without looking like an unreliable ally. Second, Erdogan already has effectively cut all ties to Europe, so we don't have much to bargain in the first place.
Turkey is still a NATO member, is still getting money from the EU in development aid, it still has visa deals with a number of EU countries, especially Germany, and it still has some basic trade agreements. So no, it hasn't cut all the ties yet, if it had, it would be in total economic chaos already.
edited 13th Sep '17 2:23:47 AM by Swanpride
Turkey will stop teaching evolution in high schools.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41296714
I think we are rewriting textbooks here on just how fast a modern society can regress. Pardon the pun.
edited 19th Sep '17 5:14:36 AM by DocJamore
The law in the night
Here is a preview of the new schoolbook text:
At the beginning there was only Erdogan, who created the perfect country known as Turkey
Inter arma enim silent leges
I kind of want to kidnap that house of Osman member who is a comedian and have him restore the dynasty after dropkicking Erdogan.
Would certainly be...pardon...funny.
Turkey spies betraying asylum seekers in German immigration offices
A joint investigation by Der Spiegel magazine and public broadcaster ARD found several cases where those fleeing political persecution in Turkey had been named and, in some cases, defamed as terrorists in the Turkish media shortly after a hearing at BAMF or an appointment with the office.
In many cases, their locations were also revealed in newspapers and TV reports - information that those affected said could only have come from inside BAMF, since even their families did not know where they were living.
Ankara passed a law giving the right for muffis to officiate a marriage.
Turkey announced the arrest of Amnesty International members, claiming that most of them (foreigners who came to Turkey) were supporting armed terrorists.
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Insufficient sleep cause me to read "muftis" as "muffins"
Are you F#$%ing kidding me? Amnesty International? With what evidence?
News just broke in various news channels in Europe. So I have no idea.
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IIRC, Turkey has been hounding Amnesty International for awhile now, because they dare to talk back to the Sultan.
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Cue the shitstorm.
Apparently if you call anyone inside Turkey, the first thing you'll hear is a recording of Erdogan.
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