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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#5526: Nov 25th 2016 at 3:54:15 PM

I can get to the second form now, but, regrettably, it looks like I will have to go back for MP restoratives. tongue

edited 25th Nov '16 3:54:22 PM by HamburgerTime

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#5527: Nov 25th 2016 at 4:55:33 PM

Stephen was a fun fight.

Also read and beat Epidemic in Mikado.

YHVH shoved his universe inside Hugo which caused all of this.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#5528: Nov 25th 2016 at 5:00:56 PM

I got to experience the other Messiahs. Even with Nanashi at level 99 they're way stronger than him.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#5529: Nov 25th 2016 at 5:08:22 PM

Well they are disembodied souls, and we know from experience IVA's Flynns not that strong from the final battles.

Plus you haven't broken the level cap like these souls did.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#5530: Nov 25th 2016 at 5:51:16 PM

First form Stephen seems to have at least three patterns he'll use. The easiest is where he won't use Reboot Code at all, and the hardest is when he'll not only use Reboot Code but spam the elemental piercing attacks too; I've actually never survived the latter. I'm not sure what, if anything, sets him on one path or another.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#5531: Nov 25th 2016 at 5:55:11 PM

I feel like spamming elemental piercing attacks until you die is based off your resistances, like the Fiends's almighty spam in the last game. I'm not positive though, since it only happened once to me.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#5532: Nov 25th 2016 at 6:51:53 PM

Bit the bullet, bought the gem DLC, and splurged on St. Germain's goodies. Felt a bit like cheating, but given that last time the biggest superboss was literally impossible without DLC...

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#5533: Nov 26th 2016 at 10:29:18 AM

I... I...

I DID IIIIIIIIIIIIT! MAN that was fun. I actually found the second form easier than the first; his massive chunk of HP actually works against him in the long run, since the battle goes on so long that, thanks to the Hero and Aleph's weakening moves, Stephen will be weak to pretty much everything by the end.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#5534: Nov 27th 2016 at 12:32:20 PM

Speaking of achievements, I recently beat Cleopatra. Her Horde can be almost completely shut down by Krishna's Raga moves, though Cleopatra herself hits like a truck. Found myself switching demons around a lot.

I also recently managed to beat Black Rider and Pale Rider within the 10-turn limit. Now I'm getting ready to face the Trumpeter Horde.

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#5537: Nov 27th 2016 at 1:34:03 PM

The scene with the demons and humans rebuilding Tokyo. It reminds me of the end of WALL-E.

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
SaintDeltora The Mistress from The Land Of Corruption and Debauchery Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
The Mistress
#5539: Nov 27th 2016 at 2:03:21 PM

Hamburger Time: That's actually a pretty good comparison.

"Please crush me with your heels Esdeath-sama!
Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#5540: Nov 27th 2016 at 2:29:32 PM

That was a cute little scene.

Shame the ending is completely undercut by what they did to Dagda and treating it like a pure happy ending.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#5541: Nov 27th 2016 at 4:00:04 PM

Eh, he was a dick anyway. I'm not too broken up about it.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#5542: Nov 27th 2016 at 4:02:51 PM

He was trying to kill them. It was a shady thing to do but it's not like there were many options.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#5543: Nov 27th 2016 at 4:05:39 PM

I felt more bad for Dagda than I ever did Asahi, Isabeau, Toki, and Nozomi. Can't deny I laughed with joy when Danu meets her end.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
matteste Since: Jul, 2010
#5544: Nov 28th 2016 at 12:11:38 PM

[up]I'm sad that you don't get to fight her directly to cave her face in.

And yea, as much of an ass as Dagda was, I found him much more likable than any of the characters I was supposed to be rooting for.

edited 28th Nov '16 12:12:56 PM by matteste

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#5545: Nov 28th 2016 at 12:17:09 PM

Peace versus Anarchy is essentially communitarianism versus individualism. I'm much more of a communitarian so I like Peace better. This is also why I think, while neither is exactly great, that Law is better than Chaos.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#5546: Nov 28th 2016 at 12:41:56 PM

Law is the biggest lie. Fueled on the suffering of the masses while deluding them that it's peace, infecting them with demonic genes while manipulating them to kill themselves for a promised kingdom they will never be allowed into.

Except in II or Majin Tensei II Light-Law (No YHVH to muck it up), but Satan knew YHVH was a monster for condoning genocide and atoned via the Loop Hole Abuse YHVH was too arrogant to think of.

Chaos is the foundation of all human possibility and potential. As Nyarly learned the hard way at the end of Eternal Punishment.

edited 28th Nov '16 12:43:00 PM by OmegaRadiance

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CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#5548: Nov 28th 2016 at 2:00:01 PM

[up][up]Chaos ignores the value of stability and sustainable growth, instead calling for everything to endlessly cycle through booms and busts. It also screams about freedom but ignores that a life spent in fear of the powerful cannot be called free.

Not to say YHVH's law is any better, just that Chaps sucks a hard one too.

I sure said that!
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#5549: Nov 28th 2016 at 2:04:50 PM

Hey Chaos can be more than accepting of stability and sustainable growth. That's why it's Chaos. Anything is possible within it, except YHVH not being a dick.

Lucifer even tells you restoring Law and Order is fine at the end of II, because YHVH is gone and it's their right as beings of chaos and freedom.

Most mainline games just has a big ugly demon with a club go "Wurld of str" and they get oneshot by Divine Angel.

edited 28th Nov '16 2:05:57 PM by OmegaRadiance

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#5550: Nov 28th 2016 at 2:16:15 PM

[up]A club with "Wurld of str" written on it needs to be official Shin Megami Tensei merchandise.


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