Undertale/Deltarune

Gaster stuff. I just call it that because it was discovered when some enterprising folks busted open the config file and noticed that the "fun" value was the only one that wasn't capitalized; upon 'correcting' it by changing it to "Fun", Gaster stuff started happening.

It was recently discovered that "fun" becomes "Fun" without needed save hacking if you follow the Genocide route almost to the end, back out at the last moment, then reset and get the neutral ending. Flowey also gives some unique dialogue in the ending reflecting this.

He doesn't really chastise you so much as wonder why you stopped, then come to the conclusion that you're giving them a happy ending just so you can be even more of a bastard by ripping it away from them. He's still conviced that you're Chara from the Genocide route, since you didn't do a True Reset.

edited 13th Oct '15 9:23:15 AM by Anura

"You're blue now, that's my attack."

I have a question.

What happens if you uninstall Undertale and then reinstall it? Will data of previous games be saved?

That completely wipes everything, with one major exception. If you sold your soul to Chara, that's stored somewhere else on the computer, and is also the only part of the game backed up to the Steam Cloud. You can still get rid of it, but it takes a whole lot of DETERMINATION.

Oh. Wonderful. I am going to go ahead and do that then. I vastly regret one of the first things I did.

Also, you can spare Greater Dog by ignoring him. He'll eventually find you too boring and leave, just like the Dummy in the intro.

edited 13th Oct '15 10:30:33 AM by Bat178

The stick is better.

Also, what is the best way to get money...? The tem shop? Is it even possible to avoid the fight with Muffet?

edited 13th Oct '15 10:35:32 AM by Aszur

If you save a spider donut or spider cider all the way to that point and then eat it during the fight, she'll let you go. She won't even try to trap you apparently if you buy one of the overpriced things from her booth.

Best way to farm money is definitely the random encounters in Hotland, provided you didn't progress far enough yet to deactivate them. I found them very easy to deal with and they give you some 80-100 Gold each.

Also why would you use a shortcut out of Muffet's fight, it's so much fun! Man, a boss rush mode for this game would be great to have...

@Anura: Just remember that it isn't confirmed for sure <_< And fun file might change anyway since I've seen some apparently fun file events happen on people who haven't any run but genocide run.

Well. True. Defeating her was fun. In the sense that the little spider just hsows up with a note.

But, you know. It was a relatively long fight.

Well, confirming it is part of the reason I'm doing it. ^^ That and the Sans fight.

Definitely agree about the boss rush idea. Papyrus and Undyne should get on that boss battle scrapbook idea!

My god, that would actually be a perfect framing device!

Yeah, Muffet was a bit of a long fight. It seemed insurmountable when I died to her! Then I retried and had to realize I'd died on like the last second of the last round. And then I actually found myself feeling a little sad because beating her meant that I wouldn't be able to fight her again!

Papyrus and a yellow trickster.
Animation of the Undyne fight.
where babies come from.

Yeah, you can avoid fighting Muffet by bringing a spider item from the Ruins or buying one from her shop. Otherwise you just have to outlast her.

Huh, first mixed review on metacritic.

I've been waiting for metacritic score to drop because someone doesn't like the game, but I was expecting more of "Not my thing" and less "I give this game below 70 score because it made me feel bad" ._. And seems like this reviewer got spoiled too much since he seems to speak more of game's community than the game(well, referring that game wants to be played in certain way even though what he says refers to community)

I find that confusing, but I guess it does show how good this game is at making you feel sad xD Still, I didn't get reasoning why he didn't give 70 at least, unless my reading comprehension fails, at best I can get that he felt sad so he rated it lower .-.

The length of Muffet's fight gets shorter depending on how many spider pastries you bought in the ruins.

I'm doing a no-healing/default equipment run right now, so that fight should be fun once I get to it.

edited 13th Oct '15 11:59:36 AM by Collen

Ah well. It was fun while it lasted.

I don't know if its fair to blame the game for the player giving up on the idea of not fighting.

Even if you mess up once, you could always have the determination to try again.

But whatever.

Edit: Although the fact that Toriel stops aiming at you when your health is low enough pretty much gives you all the time you need to figure it out.

edited 13th Oct '15 12:11:33 PM by Bocaj

If you save often enough, you shouldn't lose too much time from reloading anyway. Though I guess if you screw up at the end of a section it could be hard, but.

To be honest, I don't think review scores are by default "fair" since they are pretty meaningless since reviews are subjective opinions, but review scores are subjective interpretations of those subjective opinions xD So even if two different people have same opinion, they might give different score. But its not as marketable if you can't have site that collects numerical values that everyone gives, because people are too lazy to read "Do I recommend the game?"

Also, I've seen that some people don't realize that since they use evil items right away when they get low enough. And some people still don't realize she is avoiding to hit you xD

edited 13th Oct '15 12:12:33 PM by SpookyMask

• Muffet has joined the spiders in synchronized head-banging

Can spiders even headbang?

A surprising number of people kill Toriel the first time, apparently. You'd think that the Ruins would be practive enough.