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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#101: Nov 6th 2014 at 4:04:24 AM

[up][up]I'd argue it's the opposite, really. It's generally awesome, but has it's incredibly stupid moments.

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#102: Nov 22nd 2014 at 10:25:30 PM

So a complete throwaway gag in the latest TFS Plays "Where's the Breaking Bad Fighting Game", really makes me want Jessie Pinkman as a Super Saiyan now.

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#103: Nov 22nd 2014 at 10:29:49 PM

You'd have to murder everyone he ever cared about to even unlock that form.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
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#104: Nov 22nd 2014 at 10:30:19 PM

Isn't that more or less what happens in the show?

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maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#105: Nov 22nd 2014 at 10:33:16 PM

Yes, but it'd be less fun in a video game. Although, if you got fatalities...

Going on this logic, would Mecha Gus be unlocked after finishing his storyline?

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#107: Dec 16th 2014 at 9:50:01 AM

Another interesting fic: A Good Man.

In the months since Majiin Buu's defeat, peace has been restored to the planet Earth and our heroes have returned to their families to enjoy the fruits of their labor. But an unexpected threat lurks in the depths of space, a fleet called The Justice, headed by six lawmen, with a mission of capturing members of Lord Frieza's regime, and Prince Vegeta is next on their list...

What I don't understand is why these far-reaching repercussions from the Frieza days always seem to arrive after Majin Buu.

[up](x5)

I don't suppose you could link to that video?

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#108: Dec 16th 2014 at 12:36:03 PM

It takes a long time for news to travel through Space.

Though, there's also no fucking reason for these guys to be a threat.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#109: Dec 16th 2014 at 3:23:17 PM

From the way the fic starts, it seems to be a "Trial of the Phoenix Dark Phoenix Saga" kind of plot.

Or I guess a "Green Lantern on trial", or maybe a Courtroom Episode.

edited 16th Dec '14 3:30:47 PM by FOFD

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Hyp3rB14d3 Since: Jan, 2001
#111: Dec 16th 2014 at 4:59:26 PM

Except Vegeta doesn't seem like the kind of person who would let himself be taken in.

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#112: Dec 16th 2014 at 5:06:36 PM

Post-Buu Saga, humble!Vegeta?

I could see him refusing to be chained, but I could also see him going just to own up to everything he did, and proceed to not give a damn about the trial.

Mind, in a filler episode, Vegeta and Nappa allowed the bug-aliens to throw them in prison for their amusement, though proceeded to wreck shit whenever the bugs tried to demean them.

edited 23rd Dec '14 8:29:59 PM by FOFD

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#113: Dec 16th 2014 at 5:08:13 PM

"Yeah, I blew up seven planets. I killed about six or seven....teen billion people. What of it?"

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#114: Dec 16th 2014 at 5:24:47 PM

He also helped stop one of the greatest threats to the universe in Majin Boo, a being who could have cause far more death and harm than Vegeta or Frieza could have ever hoped to inflict if they been interested.

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#115: Dec 16th 2014 at 5:36:09 PM

Yeah, but that's like saying "Oh, you shot that serial killer in the face. We'll just sweep your three homicides and an arson under the rug."

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#116: Dec 16th 2014 at 5:47:20 PM

What if that Serial Killer was going to kill the whole universe?

I'm not saying everything he did (and how much of that was done willingly, and how much of that was due to being under Frieza's thumb?) should be ignored, but any trial has to take that into account.

edited 16th Dec '14 5:51:20 PM by HandsomeRob

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32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#117: Dec 16th 2014 at 5:54:02 PM

I read like, half of it this morning. And the trial doesn't actually really draw attention to the duress part. It focuses more on the things he did post Frieza to post Buu.

Edit: I mean those are the things the defence draws attention too. The prosecution focuses on the genocides / xenocides he committed before his Heel–Face Turn

edited 16th Dec '14 5:59:03 PM by 32ndfreeze

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#118: Dec 16th 2014 at 7:42:55 PM

So they actually got him to come along then?

How'd they do it?

Did he go willingly, or did they force him somehow?

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32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#119: Dec 16th 2014 at 8:52:59 PM

They forced Vegeta, and then Goku doesn't want to just use his superior power to browbeat them into giving him up, because he realizes that they are the good guys, and sort of have a point.

Plus he'd have to kill a LOT of people.

Interestingly enough, one of the major reasons certain characters decide to trust him later is them learning that he knows Instant Transmission. And hasn't used it already.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#120: Dec 21st 2014 at 2:00:56 PM

I can see people going "Prince Vegeta, you're under arrest! Come quietly or we'll be forced to subdue you!" and then he just smiles and goes "You're welcome to try" before punting them off his lawn.

...

So I was reading it and... they defeated Vegeta. And I'm like 'lol nope'.

edited 21st Dec '14 2:28:27 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#121: Dec 21st 2014 at 2:50:00 PM

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That's kinda disappointing.

I mean, they just defeat him somehow. Bullshit. It's been made clear that at this point, the Saiyans outclass everyone but Beers.

Interestingly enough, one of the major reasons certain characters decide to trust him later is them learning that he knows Instant Transmission. And hasn't used it already.

Kinda sounds like what happened when Bolin showed some hostile rebels that he knew lava bending. It's such a Game-Breaker that the fact that he didn't use it to kill them instantly gave him enough credibility to earn a bit of their trust.

edited 21st Dec '14 2:50:18 PM by HandsomeRob

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#122: Dec 21st 2014 at 3:41:04 PM

Also apparently people know Freeza's real powerlevel. Even though far as everyone knows, it's 530000, because that's all he ever needs. So 'suprassing the almighty Freeza' would still be far from impressive to the Z Fighters.

So it's a stupid plothole.

At most, they'd know his second form, which has a powerlevel of 1,000,000 or so.

... so the story stablishes that the chick who apparently is going to be the main antagonist was the one to destroy the Planet Trade Organization but...

Actually, I seem to recall it was Vegeta himself who did that. To start with, he killed all of their non-Freeza leaders. The Ginyu force, Zarbon and Dodoria are all on Vegeta's resume. Further, I seem to recall it being implied that while he was going around space in his free time, that was what occupied his time apart from training. Goku also seems to keep forgetting he can read minds, feel energy, teleport, etc etc etc.

And no, this isn't a case of him not having these abilities, they come and go as the author needs them.

Incidentally, I was right, the author wrote his OC being as powerful as Vegeta. No. Just... No. And I just read Vegeta firing the Final Flash. Yeah, everything in the entire fleet is now space dust. Because there's just no way you can sell me anything surviving the Final Flash. Cell couldn't tank a Final Flash from an infinitely weaker Vegeta.

edited 21st Dec '14 6:39:37 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#123: Dec 22nd 2014 at 10:11:10 PM

Incidentally, I was right, the author wrote his OC being as powerful as Vegeta. No Just No.
Yeah man, if you want to write a story where the plot requires Vegeta to be subdued, you'd better make sure you resurrect one of the canon villains who are stronger than him to do it.

...this guy could have done the plot with Majin Buu or Bills being a space cop, right?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#124: Dec 22nd 2014 at 11:15:22 PM

He could've written this story using a much weaker Vegeta. Or hell, he could've written his story having the villain abuse the super special awesome tech that made her super powerful.

But no. He didn't do that. No, he made some random Space Jane be equal to the fifth most powerful being in the universe. I'm not even kidding. Even assuming Mr. Buu is more powerful than Vegeta (doubtful given that Kid Buu took the majority of the power when they split), that still puts Vegeta just short of the top five biggest badasses in the entire universe. (That's Whis, Beerus, Gohan, Goku (this is Pre-God Powerup), Mr. Buu and then Vegeta, in order. Though personally I believe Vegeta is stronger than Mr. Buu, because, again, Kid Buu took most of the power when they split).

The kind of power Goku, Gohan and Vegeta wield is so far beyond the realm of the very gods that govern the universe that they are ants in front of the Saiyans. And now some random space cop can trade blows with the fifth most powerful being that exists as a fucking equal.

That strains my Willing Suspension of Disbelief so much it fucking explodes.

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#125: Dec 23rd 2014 at 2:33:34 AM

Is he mode locked in base form or something?


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