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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#476: Jun 7th 2015 at 11:27:26 PM

I'm pretty sure she actually breaks down crying the second time, though. One thing I liked about Shin Budoukai was when an alternate Gohan said that Chi-chi would spend basically every night crying after Goku died.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#477: Jun 7th 2015 at 11:35:25 PM

And that death was permanent. By Goku's own choice.

That's got to hurt.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#478: Jun 8th 2015 at 6:53:34 AM

If Goku was female she probably wouldn't be surprised by Bulma's genitalia.

...And using Grandpa Gohan's crotch as a pillow would be sorta creepy.

I mean, it's sorta creepy already, but.

edited 8th Jun '15 6:57:02 AM by unnoun

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#479: Jun 8th 2015 at 6:56:48 AM

So I think I've figured out what was bothering me about Goku's Nakama being an unintentional harem of guys that can't work up the nerve to tell her how much they love her/she's oblivious.

As a guy, Goku's group of friends is built up through loyalty, adventure, determination, respect, and, of course, violence.

As a girl, Goku's friends would be a gaggle of guys who just desperately want to give her the D.

My various fanfics.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#480: Jun 8th 2015 at 8:06:09 AM

Which doesn't mean she can't form her True Companions group the exact same way and for the exact same reasons. But that's what happens when you get a bunch of presumably straight guys and one Innocent Fanservice Girl.

Anyway, switching gears...

What would reactions be if Vegetto's plan had worked flawlessly and he hadn't defused within Buu?

I think I can already predict what Goten and Trunks would act like.

Trunks: "So you're my dad and Goten's dad?"

Vegetto: "Pretty much, yeah."

Goten: "Does that mean we're brothers?"

Vegetto: "Sure, let's go with that."

Goten and Trunks: "Awesome!"

edited 8th Jun '15 10:15:26 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#481: Jun 8th 2015 at 10:53:20 AM

I'm not sure Tien, Chiaotzu, or Yamcha would be interested. I mean, I question whether the former two are straight, and they're all older than her and remember when she was a kid.

I don't think Piccolo would care, for obvious reasons.

I could see Krillin having a big crush on Goku, because she'd be one of the first girls he's met after leaving the temple, and Krillin explicitly started martial arts to meet girls.

Because Goku is constantly helping build Krillin's confidence and giving him advice during fights, like reminding him that he doesn't have a nose.

Because, if 18 and Zangya are anything to go by, Krillin does seem to have a thing for strong, confident women.

...Yes I'm deliberately ignoring Maron from the anime, shh. tongue

But above all, yeah, Goku is a great friend. I do think it's right that Krillin himself would be too scared of messing that up to make the first move.

...I do think it's probably true that characters would treat Goku differently. And, one of the things with Goku is that a lot of Goku's arc in Dragon Ball is about meeting people and learning things and growing up in some ways. While still remaining, at heart, the same innocent and pure monkey boy.

In addition, there are aspects of the writing that would probably change, to an extent, because of Toriyama and Japanese culture, but.

...In some ways, the closest female equivalent to Goku in Toriyama's writing is probably Arale. Because Arale's lack of social programming makes it so that she is prone to making some of the same types of mistakes as Goku, leading to some of the same types of jokes. Like, this isn't 100%, and Goku and Arale are different characters and have different personalities, but. They do often play the same or similar roles. Broadly speaking. It's why having the two characters meet is as much fun as it is.

...Goku is twelve at the start of the series, so. I could sorta see Bulma or Launch helping her with her first menstrual cycle.

I'm pretty certain that blonde Launch wouldn't attack Goku.

...I think it's an open question exactly how ignorant Goku is, especially after training with Roshi and Kami. Goku's knowledge of things has a tendency to be very specialized.

I mean, that link from earlier also has Goku's question about how androids could have babies, which is actually a decent question for someone who knows how reproduction actually works because they probably can't. And if they could, they probably couldn't with Krillin. But when Krillin explains that 18 used to be a normal human, Goku accepts the explanation readily.

So we have the situation where Goku both seemingly knows about sex and where babies come from, but his first question about marriage, and what he thinks that means, is living together in the same house.

That's the other thing with Goku's non-fighting knowledge, is that connections don't always seem to work exactly the same as is "obvious" to most people.

...I think things that would probably definitely change are things like Roshi buying Goku a dress instead of a suit. Little things like that.

...I can't remember whether Goku says he's a boy when he meets Chichi though, and I do think it could be funny with a female Goku story if, at the last tournament, when Chichi shows up, she didn't actually know Goku's sex, and just assumed.

Toriyama is great at the anticlimax.

edited 8th Jun '15 10:53:52 AM by unnoun

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#482: Jun 8th 2015 at 11:06:14 AM

You're aware that by the time Goku has that conversation, Goku has already had not one but two children of his own and spent at least half a decade living with his wife, right? It'd be impossible for him not to know how babies are made by then.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#483: Jun 8th 2015 at 11:21:27 AM

See, I read a story where, because Goku wasn't there in the hospital room when Gohan was born, and because he came back from the dead when he met Goten, he thought that people just sorta find babies like Grandpa Gohan found him.

I mean, there's some assumptions about what Gohan's birth was like, which is one of those nebulous gaps in Dragon Ball where basically anything could have happened.

But I thought it was an interesting interpretation.

Not that I agree with it, mind, but.

edited 8th Jun '15 11:22:01 AM by unnoun

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#484: Jun 9th 2015 at 8:35:48 PM

What If? Gohan Wasn't A Clumsy Fuck

Gohan caught the earring his father tossed him.

Within barely an instant, he'd already clipped it to his right ear.

Buu didn't even have time to react before Goku and Gohan clashed in a flash of brilliant cyan light.

When the light faded, there was only one fighter.

"What!? Who are you!?" Buu screamed.

"I am neither Goku nor Gohan. I am the one who will destroy you!"

Deciding to end this charade as soon as possible, Buu rushed forwards and tried to punch this new enemy in the face.

But by the time his vision refocused, he was already flying away, his body looking not unlike someone had chewed on him.

"Hm... A fusion between Goku and Gohan... I guess I should call myself... Gokan? I'll think of something later. For now... I'm sorry, Buu, but playing around with you almost killed Gohan earlier, so I've decided to end this right now."

Buu shrieked in rage and prepared to charge again.

However, he was soon met with a Kamehameha to the face, that completely obliterated every particle of him, destroying him utterly.

"Well... Now it's time to get to reviving everyone..." Gokan..? muttered to himself as he set about doing exactly that.

The Great Saiyaman became the Super Saiyaman, but no real changes other than that were felt by the world at large.

edited 9th Jun '15 8:36:43 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#485: Jun 9th 2015 at 8:42:48 PM

Neither Chi-chi nor Videl would like that.

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Hyp3rB14d3 Since: Jan, 2001
#486: Jun 9th 2015 at 9:07:31 PM

He probably wouldn't actually look that different, and Goku's been dead for seven years. He could probably pass himself off as Gohan if he really wanted to.

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#487: Jun 9th 2015 at 9:44:00 PM

It'd be kinda hard to hide the voice. Someone also might sense both Gohan's and Goku's ki coming from him but I'm not sure. I don't think anyone was around to witness the glory of Vegeto (other than the Supreme Kais) and I don't recall anyone remarking about Gotenk's ki.

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Hyp3rB14d3 Since: Jan, 2001
#488: Jun 9th 2015 at 9:45:51 PM

He could blame it on the Supreme Kai's power up thing.

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#489: Jun 9th 2015 at 9:47:14 PM

That's... wouldn't make any sense. "Elder Supreme Kai's power up also lets you sense Goku's ki coming form me!"

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Hyp3rB14d3 Since: Jan, 2001
#490: Jun 9th 2015 at 9:47:57 PM

Except Piccolo actually did mistake Gohan for Goku after the ceremony.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#491: Jun 10th 2015 at 12:19:52 AM

Chichi wouldn't like that.

Videl would learn to cope, eventually. I guess.

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#492: Jun 11th 2015 at 10:34:24 AM

Dragon Ball Z: The Resurrection of Frieza- Epilogue.

"There's something I don't understand," said Emma Daioh-sama, sitting behind his beautiful mahogany desk.

"I'll bet there's a lot you don't understand," muttered the returned Frieza's soul, tightly wrapped into a coccoon and flanked by two burly ogres.

"No, I'm serious," the God of Death said. "So you managed to cover the by now GIGANTIC gap between you and Goku by training over four months, right?"

"Right!"

"Then why didn't you bother training the first time you went to Goku for revenge? I mean, back then, how long would long would it have taken you, to cover that much smaller gap? Two days of training? And then you wouldn't even be here in the first place. I really, really don't get it," he shook his head as he sealed the last paper for Frieza's transfer to Hideous Fucking Saccharine Angel Planet.

"..." said Frieza, and then growled, "Facepalm!"

One of the ogres dutifully placed a hand on Frieza's face.

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#493: Jun 11th 2015 at 10:40:14 AM

If there's one thing that's bigger than Freeza's gigantic freaking penis head in his third form, it's his ego. It's almost 100% likely Freeza thought he could defeat Goku as he was when he went for his revenge the first time. After all... the last time Goku pretty much explained why he lost - he was bleeding power like crazy. Sure, he never really was a match for Goku, not with a 30,000,000 BP difference between them, but Freeza thought he was, and he was stronger with the cybernetic implants on his body.

The hilarious thing is, what Trunks did is something that Goku most likely could have done if he'd wanted to, back on Namek.

But then again, it doesn't mean the fic above doesn't work. Solely because hindsight is 20/20.

edited 11th Jun '15 10:41:08 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#494: Jun 18th 2015 at 1:13:54 AM

God, I thought writing for Gohan was hard, but writing for Goku is even harder. I'm trying to have a discussion between Gohan and Goku, with Gohan pressing whether it's selfish for Goku to remain alive after the Buu Saga, considering the reasons why he stayed dead in the first place.

And...geez. It's really difficult trying to come up with earnest reactions for Goku that are still in-character. Like, if you make him too caring, it's OOC. If you make him too detached, it's also OOC.

Basically, it's really hard to imagine how Goku would react to more...personal issues. He'd normally shy away from those kinds of thoughts. Because, normally, he wouldn't need to think about them.

edited 18th Jun '15 1:14:51 AM by LOLypop1224

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#495: Jun 18th 2015 at 4:26:30 AM

Isn't Goku's reason for staying dead being that a lot of strong people target him and put the Earth in danger?

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#496: Jun 18th 2015 at 4:35:35 AM

Yep. But after the Buu Saga...well, he comes back to life, and it looks like he's going to be alive for the foreseeable future. Even if that is almost selfish of him to do and potentially risk the Earth.

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#497: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:01:10 AM

The only problem is that his reasoning is pretty bullshit. The only danger he's brought were the Androids/Cell and maybe Freeza (at that wasn't even really his fault). Meanwhile, his presence has been the only thing to save the Earth a dozen times over.

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alioth Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#498: Jun 18th 2015 at 8:46:01 AM

Well, his presence is also the reason Majin Buu managed to escape. But his reasoning is still bullshit.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#499: Jun 18th 2015 at 10:07:37 AM

Not really.

Piccolo Jr. and technically Piccolo Sr. were both his fault, in a sense. Pilaf released Sr. because he couldn't deal with Goku on his own.

Raditz came for Goku, and that brought along Vegeta and Nappa.

Freeza came to Earth looking for Goku and Dr. Gero made five doomsday machines to kill him.

Goku is right in saying that the most dangerous threats Earth has ever faced in the last ~20 years are related to him in some way.

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#500: Jun 18th 2015 at 10:10:30 AM

If Goku hadn't been there, Pilaf would have ended up ruling the world.

Raditz and co. would have come to Earth eventually regardless of Goku's presence.

Freeza wasn't his fault since Goku did his best to kill him with the Angry Kamehameha.

Gero would have been evil and made Androids for the Red Ribbon Army even without Goku being there.

edited 18th Jun '15 10:11:02 AM by Zelenal

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