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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#1901: Mar 17th 2014 at 7:56:52 PM

Thanks.

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#1903: Mar 19th 2014 at 3:09:56 AM

@ GCHQ: It's important to note that the UK have Acts the US envies when it comes to Secrecy — the Official Secrets Act (more details on the Acts here), as well as the DA-Notice System, which requests the media not to report on certain areasnote .

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#1905: Mar 20th 2014 at 6:14:42 PM

Hmm. A minor plot point from last week's The Good Wife just changed...

RavenWilder Raven Wilder Since: Apr, 2009
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#1907: Mar 20th 2014 at 8:42:21 PM

[up][up][up] I have zero problems with that.

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TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#1908: Mar 21st 2014 at 7:28:03 PM

Oh, Microsoft, you couldn't have handled this any worse, could you?

Defending your decision to crack someone's e-mail now of all times...

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#1909: Mar 21st 2014 at 8:02:29 PM

"According to an FBI complaint, Microsoft in 2012 discovered that an ex-employee had leaked proprietary software to an anonymous blogger. Fearing that could empower hackers, Microsoft's lawyers approved emergency "content pulls" of the blogger's accounts to track it down. Company investigators entered the blogger's Hotmail account, then pored over emails and instant messages on Windows Live. The internal investigation led to the arrest on Wednesday of Alex Kibkalo, a former Microsoft employee based in Lebanon."

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#1910: Mar 21st 2014 at 8:12:36 PM

Hmm, I'm not sure that it's reasonable to expect that your Hotmail account will remain entirely private from Microsoft under all circumstances — they do own it, after all.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1912: Mar 22nd 2014 at 6:43:56 AM

Not me. Sounds interesting, but is it really as easy as the video makes it sound?

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joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#1913: Mar 22nd 2014 at 7:04:07 AM

I'm not seeing allot of actual detail there. Little suspicious

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#1914: Mar 22nd 2014 at 9:31:23 AM

Those corporations, of course, are doing it because major corporations care deeply about the individual right of privacy that all of their consumers have, and are fighting fiercely to uphold Constitutional values. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that many major corporations are engaged in behavior they really don't want the government to know about. The 1% has your best interests at heart.

I know you're being sarcastic, but I know someone at Google and I can assure you that they do care deeply about privacy.

edited 22nd Mar '14 9:34:16 AM by storyyeller

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#1915: Mar 22nd 2014 at 9:44:46 AM

Well that's Google though.

They are the worst evil corporation in history

Oh really when?
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#1917: Mar 22nd 2014 at 3:34:33 PM

Nah worst as in they're doing a terrible job at being an evil corporation.

Besides, IG Farben no longer exists, it's all about Monsanto now.

Oh really when?
Culminus I don't culminate! Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
I don't culminate!
#1919: Mar 22nd 2014 at 11:11:41 PM

@drunk driving comparison:

This logic is so full of fuck, my mind would be ravished beyond consent if I were to click on the webpage alone.

Same as usual.... Wing it.
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#1920: Mar 23rd 2014 at 10:05:03 AM

The comparison isn't a bad one, from a purely logical standpoint. I'll copy/paste the appropriate quote from the article: "Not every drunk driver causes a fatal accident, but we ban drunk driving because it increases the risk of accidents. In the same way, we classify information because of the risk of harm, even if no harm actually can be shown in the end from any particular disclosure."

It's a response to the question "why is it illegal to release harmless information?". The analogous question would be "why is drunk driving illegal even if it doesn't cause an accident?". The answer to both questions is that it's because you don't know that it won't cause harm beforehand, and you can't undo the harm once it's happened, so we have to minimize the possibility of causing harm in the first place, instead.

Of course, making the comparison is a stupid move from a PR perspective, if only because the exact attitude displayed by Culminus.

edited 23rd Mar '14 10:06:09 AM by NativeJovian

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Meklar from Milky Way Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#1921: Mar 23rd 2014 at 10:27:22 AM

[up] There's also the incredibly important difference that while drunk driving accidents are just that (accidents), surveillance is something done by certain people deliberately, and furthermore, funded with taxpayer money. There is no natural, random enemy in play here, it's all about people and what they can or can't get away with.

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#1922: Mar 23rd 2014 at 10:33:08 AM

The analogy wasn't about surveillance. It was about releasing classified material to the public.

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Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#1923: Mar 23rd 2014 at 11:15:56 AM

Of the two scenarios, one of them is not done to make a stand for basic human rights to privacy and due process of law in the event of outrageous and institutionalized abuse.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#1924: Mar 23rd 2014 at 11:25:35 AM

So we should ignore any harm that it may result in, because it was done with good intentions?

edited 23rd Mar '14 11:25:44 AM by NativeJovian

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