Privacy, Government, Surveillance, and You.:

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1901 rmctagg0917th Mar 2014 07:56:52 PM from Brooklyn, NY , Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
Thanks.
Hugging a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.

It's typed rmctagg09.
1902 DeviantBraeburn18th Mar 2014 04:07:10 PM from Dysfunctional California
1903 Greenmantle19th Mar 2014 03:09:56 AM from Greater Wessex, Britannia , Relationship Status: Hiding
On The Road Again
@ GCHQ: It's important to note that the UK have Acts the US envies when it comes to Secrecy — the Official Secrets Act (more details on the Acts here), as well as the DA-Notice System, which requests the media not to report on certain areasnote .
"Britannia Rules the Waves (if only)"
1904 DeviantBraeburn20th Mar 2014 06:09:38 PM from Dysfunctional California
1905 DeMarquis20th Mar 2014 06:14:42 PM from Hell, USA , Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
Hmm. A minor plot point from last week's The Good Wife just changed...
“Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.”
1906 RadicalTaoist20th Mar 2014 07:05:09 PM from the #GUniverse
Raven Wilder
[up][up][up] I have zero problems with that.
"It takes an idiot to do cool things, that's why it's cool" - Haruhara Haruko
1908 TotemicHero21st Mar 2014 07:28:03 PM from the next level , Relationship Status: Abstaining
Up and at 'em
Oh, Microsoft, you couldn't have handled this any worse, could you?

Defending your decision to crack someone's e-mail now of all times...
1909 DeMarquis21st Mar 2014 08:02:29 PM from Hell, USA , Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
"According to an FBI complaint, Microsoft in 2012 discovered that an ex-employee had leaked proprietary software to an anonymous blogger. Fearing that could empower hackers, Microsoft's lawyers approved emergency "content pulls" of the blogger's accounts to track it down. Company investigators entered the blogger's Hotmail account, then pored over emails and instant messages on Windows Live. The internal investigation led to the arrest on Wednesday of Alex Kibkalo, a former Microsoft employee based in Lebanon."
“Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.”
1910 Fighteer21st Mar 2014 08:12:36 PM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Hmm, I'm not sure that it's reasonable to expect that your Hotmail account will remain entirely private from Microsoft under all circumstances — they do own it, after all.
1911 RadicalTaoist21st Mar 2014 10:19:04 PM from the #GUniverse
1912 MarqFJA22nd Mar 2014 06:43:56 AM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Not me. Sounds interesting, but is it really as easy as the video makes it sound?
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
1913 joesolo22nd Mar 2014 07:04:07 AM from Wouldn't you like to know... , Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
I'm not seeing allot of actual detail there. Little suspicious
1914 storyyeller22nd Mar 2014 09:31:23 AM from Appleloosa , Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
Those corporations, of course, are doing it because major corporations care deeply about the individual right of privacy that all of their consumers have, and are fighting fiercely to uphold Constitutional values. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that many major corporations are engaged in behavior they really don't want the government to know about. The 1% has your best interests at heart.

I know you're being sarcastic, but I know someone at Google and I can assure you that they do care deeply about privacy.

edited 22nd Mar '14 9:34:16 AM by storyyeller

Life is simple: it has no nontrivial normal subgroups.
1915 LeGarcon22nd Mar 2014 09:44:46 AM from Skadovsk , Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
Well that's Google though.

They are the worst evil corporation in history
Oh really, when?
1916 Greenmantle22nd Mar 2014 03:32:48 PM from Greater Wessex, Britannia , Relationship Status: Hiding
On The Road Again
[up] Worse than IG Farben?
"Britannia Rules the Waves (if only)"
1917 LeGarcon22nd Mar 2014 03:34:33 PM from Skadovsk , Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
Nah worst as in they're doing a terrible job at being an evil corporation.

Besides, IG Farben no longer exists, it's all about Monsanto now.
Oh really, when?
1918 Quag1522nd Mar 2014 07:00:53 PM from Portugal , Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Portugal according to Hetalia
Those who are free from common prejudices acquire others.- Napoleon Bonaparte

Tropers Riffing Movies
1919 Culminus22nd Mar 2014 11:11:41 PM , Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
I don't culminate!
@drunk driving comparison:

This logic is so full of fuck, my mind would be ravished beyond consent if I were to click on the webpage alone.
Same as usual.... Wing it.
1920 NativeJovian23rd Mar 2014 10:05:03 AM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
The comparison isn't a bad one, from a purely logical standpoint. I'll copy/paste the appropriate quote from the article: "Not every drunk driver causes a fatal accident, but we ban drunk driving because it increases the risk of accidents. In the same way, we classify information because of the risk of harm, even if no harm actually can be shown in the end from any particular disclosure."

It's a response to the question "why is it illegal to release harmless information?". The analogous question would be "why is drunk driving illegal even if it doesn't cause an accident?". The answer to both questions is that it's because you don't know that it won't cause harm beforehand, and you can't undo the harm once it's happened, so we have to minimize the possibility of causing harm in the first place, instead.

Of course, making the comparison is a stupid move from a PR perspective, if only because the exact attitude displayed by Culminus.

edited 23rd Mar '14 10:06:09 AM by NativeJovian

1921 Meklar23rd Mar 2014 10:27:22 AM from Milky Way , Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
[up] There's also the incredibly important difference that while drunk driving accidents are just that (accidents), surveillance is something done by certain people deliberately, and furthermore, funded with taxpayer money. There is no natural, random enemy in play here, it's all about people and what they can or can't get away with.
1922 NativeJovian23rd Mar 2014 10:33:08 AM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
The analogy wasn't about surveillance. It was about releasing classified material to the public.
1923 Pykrete23rd Mar 2014 11:15:56 AM from Viridian Forest
NOT THE BEES
Of the two scenarios, one of them is not done to make a stand for basic human rights to privacy and due process of law in the event of outrageous and institutionalized abuse.
1924 NativeJovian23rd Mar 2014 11:25:35 AM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
So we should ignore any harm that it may result in, because it was done with good intentions?

edited 23rd Mar '14 11:25:44 AM by NativeJovian

1925 TotemicHero23rd Mar 2014 11:44:23 AM from the next level , Relationship Status: Abstaining

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