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Deadlock Clock: May 25th 2013 at 11:59:00 PM
Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: May 1st 2013 at 8:41:53 AM

Yeah, I have little to say about this. JAFAAC, can we do better than that?

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#2: May 1st 2013 at 8:44:36 AM

It's not very good, but it's not JAFAAC at all.

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#3: May 1st 2013 at 8:48:18 AM

Why not? Just because the caption is in the speech bubble doesn't make it less of a JAFAAC. The text does all the work, the image adds nothing.

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#4: May 1st 2013 at 8:50:46 AM

I think Madrugada wants to say that that problem would not be "JAFAAC" but "Might as well be a page quote/Text pulls all the weight".

The text is hard to read, on top of this.

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#5: May 1st 2013 at 8:58:02 AM

Yes, Septimus. Thank you. JAFAAC is "a pic that just shows off one of their favorite characters with a caption that makes a joke off of how they so totally fit the trope in their show.''

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#6: May 1st 2013 at 9:06:25 AM

Sorry but our descriptive page about Just A Face And A Caption uses a broader definition than that.

Anyway, are we agreed that this is a bad pic?

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#7: May 1st 2013 at 9:21:11 AM

That's a direct quote from the JAFAAC page.

But yes, it's not a good page image, in part because of the image quality and in part because the second panel makes it clear that they don't even need Aquaman at all, and the trope is "a hero's relatively-useless abilities turn out to be phenomenally useful because everything's contrived specifically in order to make them useful, even though realistically there's no reason to expect everything to be so convenient." At best, the current image is a subversion, and they rarely are the best choice for a page image.

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#9: May 1st 2013 at 9:35:44 AM

My vote is Keep Until Better Image Suggested. It's not a good image, but it's not bad enough to merit pulling without a better one to replace it with.

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#10: May 1st 2013 at 10:37:42 AM

[up] Agreed. Keep until better suggested.

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#11: May 1st 2013 at 10:58:51 AM

I'm going with Keep Until Better Image Suggested for foxy reasons.

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#12: May 1st 2013 at 11:01:01 AM

[up][up][up] Who said we need to replace? (This is one thing I don't really understand about this site; not every page needs an image. Pages don't automatically become better with an image, nor do they automatically become worse without one.)

I will admit, though, that you probably can't get any less text-heavy to explain this trope, although I wish that the original didn't use white letters on black. :P

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#13: May 1st 2013 at 11:23:50 AM

There was, for quite some time, a marked tendency to pull images that were not bad, just not great, without replacing them, leaving pages imageless for no good reason. It was the subject of a rather lengthy discussion, started by Fast Eddie, here.

His position, in a nutshell: Removals without replacement should only be done when the image is actively harming understanding of the article, or if the image is NSFW.

edited 1st May '13 11:24:40 AM by Madrugada

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#14: May 1st 2013 at 11:26:58 AM

Now, with the mod hat off, to me this is an "OK" image, as defined here, and should not be pulled without being replaced with one that's better.

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#15: May 1st 2013 at 11:43:12 AM

I would say it falls under several criteria of "5. bad image", i.e. (a) Isn't an example of the trope, since it shows a subversion; (b) Doesn't illustrate the trope, for the same reason; (c) Visuals Add Nothing/Might as well be a page quote; and (d) Text in the image is illegible or difficult to read.

$.02

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#16: May 1st 2013 at 11:49:15 AM

What's that, is that KITTY?!

edited 1st May '13 12:05:28 PM by helterskelter

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#17: May 1st 2013 at 11:54:55 AM

[up]... was that post meant for Ink-Stain Adaptation?

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#20: May 1st 2013 at 12:07:45 PM

What does that have to do with this Page Image discussion?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#22: May 1st 2013 at 2:37:38 PM

I think the image can just be pulled and turned into a page quote with no loss at all.

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#23: May 22nd 2013 at 7:21:04 AM

Clock is set. I lean toward [up], although it won't bug me if the pic stays.

edited 22nd May '13 7:22:18 AM by Willbyr

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#24: May 26th 2013 at 3:49:42 PM

I think it might be a better quote than the current, even though the emphasis on "WE'VE GOT TO" is part of an unrelated track Seanbaby has on Superfriends.

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#25: May 28th 2013 at 5:58:51 AM

The clock's way over on this one. I'm not seeing enough consensus on any action, so let's lock up and move on.

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