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Discussion of religion in the context of LGBTQ+ rights is only allowed in the LGBTQ+ Rights and Religion Thread.

Discussion of religion in any other context is off topic in all of the "LGBTQ+ rights..." threads.

Attempting to bait others into bringing up religion is also not allowed.

Edited by Mrph1 on Dec 1st 2023 at 6:51:29 PM

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#2276: Feb 8th 2018 at 2:43:17 AM

So the Bermuda triangle ain't pink... The inverted pink triangle is a popular LGBT symbol, reclaimed from a pitch-black past.

Repealing marriage legality is a judicial headache. What about all the households that already exist?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Elfive Since: May, 2009
#2277: Feb 8th 2018 at 2:54:06 AM

In this case they're falling back to the old Domestic Partnership, which means that they're dealing with the same legal entities.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#2278: Feb 8th 2018 at 3:04:43 AM

Right, but did the actual rights change? Visitation, inheritance, etc?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#2279: Feb 8th 2018 at 3:09:28 AM

No they legally can’t have domestic partnerships give different rights, they have to comply with European court rulings (which apply there due to them being a British Overseas Territory and the UK still being in the EU for a little bit longer).

Still an asshole move, sadly the British government won’t intervene, especially the current one which relies on the Republican level of crazy DUP to sustain itself.

edited 8th Feb '18 3:09:52 AM by Silasw

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Elfive Since: May, 2009
#2280: Feb 8th 2018 at 3:22:04 AM

If the rights are indeed identical then this whole thing is a colossal waste of time and money because it's literally just fucking semantics.

Bermuda has not repealed same sex marriage. They have repealed admitting it.

Zendervai Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy from St. Catharines Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy
#2281: Feb 8th 2018 at 9:50:30 AM

It’s going to cause a dent in their tourism. Bermuda is a popular wedding destination, so now, they’ll lose the gay part of that market to a significant degree.

Not Three Laws compliant.
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#2282: Apr 3rd 2018 at 10:15:35 PM

https://ph.news.yahoo.com/zealand-passes-law-quash-historic-gay-convictions-021950939.html

New Zealand is enacting laws to finally declare gay convictions illegal and is offering help for those who have criminal records due to that.

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#2283: Apr 25th 2018 at 8:05:25 AM

Designing for the crackdown

In Egypt, dating apps are a refuge for a persecuted LGBTQ community, but they can also be traps

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Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#2284: Apr 25th 2018 at 12:47:03 PM

[up] I've heard that story multiple times. It's sad that in a country with such turmoil as Egypt, law enforcement officers instead spend their time worried with arresting gay people for trying to get a partner.

Life is unfair...
RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
#2285: Apr 25th 2018 at 12:49:40 PM

Is Egypt worse than Russia in this regard?

Where there's life, there's hope.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#2286: Apr 25th 2018 at 4:58:59 PM

At least outside of Kadyrov's fief, almost certainly.

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KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#2287: Jun 7th 2018 at 12:30:12 AM

Bermuda's supreme court has overturned the legislation that removed recognition from same-sex marriage.

[tup] to Bermuda's Supreme court.

The Bermudan Government has six weeks to appeal the decision but this is a good sign.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#2288: Jun 10th 2018 at 10:01:34 AM

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/christian-charity-helps-tackle-lgbtq-youth-homelessness-n877186?cid=public-rss_20180610

Sincerity Mode: Thank God.

And also,

"Acting like a Christian. Who would have guessed."

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KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#2289: Jun 13th 2018 at 6:46:56 PM

Ugh. I got into a ugly Edit War in the wikia of a manganime series because a Trans character. She is female, she is a freaking Magical Girl because the Powers That Be choose her. When even the Sadistic Humanoid Abomination thinks that a trans girl is a girl but IRL humans have such a hard time understanding it, that is awful.

I imagine that similar stuff had happened with...almost every trans character, right?

It must be even more frustrating to actual transgenders, right?

edited 13th Jun '18 7:24:11 PM by KazuyaProta

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
#2290: Jun 13th 2018 at 7:13:11 PM

"Transgenders."

edited 13th Jun '18 7:13:22 PM by RAlexa21th

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KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#2291: Jun 13th 2018 at 7:23:50 PM

[up] Thanks. The spanish term is quite different and used interchangeably.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#2292: Jun 15th 2018 at 10:16:39 AM

The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled in favor of several law societies who said they would refuse to accredit graduates from a potential law program at an Evangelical university. The root cause of this refusal was that all students at Trinity Western must sign a "covenant" which among other things bans sexual activity (on pain of suspension or expulsion, potentially) outside of heterosexual marriage.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trinity-western-supreme-court-decision-1.4707240

This is good news, as it not only affirms that limiting religious freedom when it infringes on that of others is acceptable, but it also hobbles Trinity's more long-term plans; getting Dominionist nutters into politics and the judicial system.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
#2293: Jun 15th 2018 at 10:21:24 AM

That's a big bullet dodged.

Where there's life, there's hope.
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#2294: Jun 15th 2018 at 10:28:51 AM

Wrong thread, sorry

edited 15th Jun '18 10:29:58 AM by BlueNinja0

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#2295: Jun 15th 2018 at 10:34:17 AM

Ok, actual comment for this thread: Want to bet that the punishment for pre-marriagenote  heterosexual sexual contact will be a slap on the wristnote , while any homosexual conduct will be met with immediate expulsion?

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#2296: Jun 15th 2018 at 10:38:38 AM

Very likely.

I know Ninja. I know that you think that all religions should be erradicated.

I'm not gonna forget that old commentary

edited 15th Jun '18 10:40:53 AM by KazuyaProta

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Khudzlin Since: Nov, 2013
#2297: Jun 15th 2018 at 12:02:56 PM

[up] Shit like this sure doesn't make religion look good. Organized religion has all the same flaws as any other hierarchical group (priests are fallible mortals, after all), and having the ultimate authority not directly available doesn't help matters.

Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
This is a title.
#2298: Aug 1st 2018 at 11:17:11 AM

England's Freemasons to allow women - if they were once male

A for effort, but I think that falls rather short of the mark, eh? As per my understanding transgender(ed?) people are not "X who become Y", but are rather considered "Y who are mistakenly believed to be X". And they will still be referred to as 'Brothers'.

Edited by Eagal on Aug 1st 2018 at 11:28:27 AM

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#2299: Aug 1st 2018 at 11:33:24 AM

To me this sounds more transparently transphobic than if they hadn't said anything.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#2300: Aug 1st 2018 at 6:40:35 PM

[up] I don't know if I'd say transphobic as such but more of a case of completely and utterly failing to understand gender identity and how it applies to trans people.


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