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#1: Apr 9th 2013 at 12:17:03 PM

I've never been that great at math, and I feel psychology and law is the best path for me. Is there any good jobs you tropers know that people with psych or criminal justice degrees can get?

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#2: Apr 9th 2013 at 12:57:45 PM

I believe this is the thread you might be interested. Perhaps this might help too.

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#3: Apr 9th 2013 at 1:27:14 PM

...philosophy is a VERY different field from psychology—you are aware of that, right?

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Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#4: Apr 9th 2013 at 1:34:26 PM

If you want to do experimental psychology, you will need to learn some statistics. Quite a bit of it, actually — I'd wager that the average experimental psychologist knows way more statistics than I do, and I am a math graduate (although one who focuses on a completely different subject).

edited 9th Apr '13 1:34:43 PM by Carciofus

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#5: Apr 9th 2013 at 1:53:27 PM

...philosophy is a VERY different field from psychology—you are aware of that, right?

He says his long-term plan is to go into law though. Philosophy is apparently quite a good introduction to law, because it teaches you to think logically about precise words.

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#6: Apr 9th 2013 at 8:18:49 PM

Psychology. You can actually get a job with that degree.

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#7: Apr 9th 2013 at 8:21:20 PM

That is exactly why I am taking it as my second major. tongue

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#8: Apr 10th 2013 at 12:05:28 PM

If you want to Psychology you're going to know shittonnes of statistics. Seriously. By the time you finish your degree, you will have learnt the equivalent of two years of degree-level stats (at least here in the UK).

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#9: Apr 10th 2013 at 12:23:36 PM

Same here. Statistics all the way.

The other bad news is, philosophy and maths are very closely related. Classes on logic are filled to the brim with maths/physics students over here and they set the pace of the lecture often enough. Generally speaking, I find that newer philosophy is tough to understand without a basic grasp of mathematics.

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#10: Apr 11th 2013 at 4:24:44 AM

Go with psychology, it will actually give you useful knowledge as opposed to philosophy which is completely worthless.

I realize I am biased (partially because one of my majors is psych), but I don't care, I still see philosophy as a worthless major. And at least here in the states there isn't that much stats to deal with. Two classes and my stats requirements were done.

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Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#11: Apr 11th 2013 at 7:58:25 AM

Philosophy is a very important and valuable major, I believe.

But it is the kind of subject that is extremely hard to do well, and terrifyingly easy to do in a half-assed way. And even if you have a real passion for it, relevant jobs (that is, academic positions) are very hard to come by. Now, I don't mean to discourage you: if that's what you'd want to do with your life, by all means go for it! (But perhaps look into getting a more "applied" minor along the way, just in case).

But if you (generic "you") want to take philosophy in order to become able to pick up chicks by quoting Derrida and Wittgenstein... yeah, there are better ways to spend four years and a bunch of your money. Ladies are more into geology anyway tongue

edited 11th Apr '13 8:03:41 AM by Carciofus

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#12: Apr 11th 2013 at 8:06:19 AM

[up] I'm doing geology. Not getting me any ladies so far. >:/

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#13: Apr 11th 2013 at 8:13:05 AM

Weird. Perhaps weather science is better then? tongue

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#14: Apr 11th 2013 at 8:16:49 AM

Maybe most of the sciences do work well for meeting ladies, but only after you've graduated and have a fancy job.

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#15: Apr 11th 2013 at 8:18:24 AM

See, that's due to the universe wanting to stay in one piece. And, that won't happen if you get any.

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#16: Apr 11th 2013 at 8:21:01 AM

Sometimes, I really hate the universe.

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#17: Apr 11th 2013 at 8:38:48 AM

Look, the universe is just trying to survive.

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#18: Apr 11th 2013 at 8:39:29 AM

And I'm trying to not lose what's left of my sanity.

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Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#19: Apr 11th 2013 at 8:50:32 AM

And that's why you are not getting the girls. I mean, which self-respecting person would like a partner who does not gibber in alien tongues about the coming of the Elder Ones?

edited 11th Apr '13 8:50:56 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
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#20: Apr 11th 2013 at 8:52:48 AM

You've been talking to Alma too much.

Girls on this side of Australia like guys who are at least somewhat sane.

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Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#21: Apr 11th 2013 at 9:12:45 AM

Alma? I remember that they are a troper, but I don't think I have talked to him/her lately.

I think it's more than I do math. I mean, sanity and math mix about as well as the dreams of deep-fried humpback whales and the smell of a forgotten supernova.

edited 11th Apr '13 9:14:57 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
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#22: Apr 11th 2013 at 9:14:29 AM

We're all kinda crazy in our own ways. I'm just trying to keep myself from going from the fun, eccentric type crazy to outright loony.

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Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#23: Apr 11th 2013 at 9:19:23 AM

OK, kidding aside: Chills, I am sorry that you are feeling down and that my "geology" joke reminded you of it — I was just going for a silly, nonsensical joke, that was all.

Still, perhaps you are focusing too much on your romantic prospects, or lack thereof? There is so much more to life than that, after all — it is easily possible to lead an amazing life without ever having a romantic relationship, or to be very romantically successful and yet having the dullest life imaginable.

If I can give a suggestion, perhaps it's better to focus not on getting the girl, but on being awesome.

edited 11th Apr '13 9:20:36 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
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#24: Apr 11th 2013 at 9:24:00 AM

What is being awesome?

I'm good at my hobbies, I get good grades, I dress according to my own style and make sure to look good.

What else can I do to become awesome?

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Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#25: Apr 11th 2013 at 9:33:12 AM

Become great at your hobbies, perhaps. Maybe find some more. Get great grades. Make the world a better place.

I dunno, really. It's up to you, your talents and your inclinations. Suppose that an infallible prophet just told you that you'll never get a romantic relationship, as long as you live. Or, if you are feeling more morbid, suppose that you permanently lost your genitals in a toothbrushing incident tongue

What would you do? Would you give up and just lie around for the rest of your existence, or would you get up and do cool stuff?

edited 11th Apr '13 9:33:33 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.

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