Filum Romanum - A Thread for the Catholic Church

Orban would listen to that about as much as American white supremacists would listen to a Native American telling them to go back home and leave America for the Americans.

DW has details on Pope Francis' visit to Orban.

Pope says abortion is murder US bishops should not be political

Headline basically sums it’s up

Ngl, dunno if this is really helpful statement

In that does this decisively states authoritatively what should be done

Well besides abortion is murder apparently

"Pope says abortion is "murder" but U.S. bishops should not be political"

Your summary of the headline was slightly confusing.

"Pope Francis said on Wednesday that abortion is "murder", even soon after conception, but appeared to criticise some U.S. Catholic bishops for dealing with U.S. President Joe Biden's pro-choice position in a political rather than pastoral way."

Edited by DeMarquis on Sep 16th 2021 at 10:17:09 AM

I think the Pope is trying to say "keep your hands off electoral politics and do your fucking jobs as bishops, instead of using the pulpit to spew hate."

So, is this a Catholic Church-only thing? “La Palma volcano: Residents hold procession praying for eruption to end”

As a connoisseur of volcanoes I know that eruptions at Etna and Vesuvius also had religious ceremonies imploring God to halt the events. But I don't think I've heard of any other religion doing this, except Hawaiians.

Eh, Catholic processions can be held depending on the circumstances -which I think these eruptions might merit-, rural or small communities tend to do this more often than their urban counterparts, if only because they are more devoted.

Not that urban processions are not a thing, the Lord of the Miracles is a famous one in Lima for instance, but they are not exactly as common because urban people tend to be less religious and/or because it's not considered appropiate.

It may also be a practical issue in that its harder (or at least a more involved process) getting planning permission in big cities since these would probably involve closing streets.

Pope Francis showed off a Ukrainian flag given to him while leading mass in the Vatican. He condemns (again) the invasion of Ukraine.

Cardinal Joseph Zen is arrested in HK for supposedly breaching the NSL. He’s allowed to post bail, but needs to surrender his HK passport.

NSL?

National Security Law, from what I have searched.

Yeah. That. Sorry for typing fast. :(

Rumors swirling Pope Francis may resign due to health issues (specifically knee problems leaving him wheelchair bound) after postponing a trip to Africa and calling a meeting of cardinals.

Edited by tclittle on Jun 20th 2022 at 10:06:58 AM

It's probably time if so. Man has more than earned his retirement and it'll help the precedent (that popes should serve a term and abdicate).

Pope Francis has now openly acknowledged the rumors of his retirement, saying that while "it is not a taboo" for the Pope to step down and he'll do so if he thinks it's necessary, he doesn't believe he's there yet.

Edited by nrjxll on Jul 30th 2022 at 3:08:07 AM

Vice News report on allegations of sexual abuses cases that happened in Japan from within the minority Roman Catholic community.

Frank Pavone, really obnoxious anti-abortion activist, has been stripped of his priesthood by the Vatican.

Part of it is that he was stripped of his position for "blasphemous communication" - that is, he put an aborted fetus on an altar. He's also been consistently disobeying instructions from his bishop to cut the shit out, including direct defiance of the Vatican's position that abortion to save the life of the mother is permissible.

…Should…Should I be asking where he got an aborted fetus from?

I suspect that question played a role in his expulsion from the priesthood. Even with the bar as low as it is, someone engaging in corpse desecration inside a church is pretty shocking.

And setting it on the alter of a church is not only straight up blasphemy, it also harkens back to folk depictions of what a "Satanic Mass" would look like. In other words, what Mr. Pavone did was profane to basically the highest extent.

Not to mention, again, desecration, disobeying the Vatican, etc.

And it still took eight years after pulling that stunt to get him defrocked, because the Church only moves fast against progressive renegades.

Edited by Ramidel on Dec 24th 2022 at 9:12:56 AM

@fredhot16: The question has indeed been asked; ex-father Pavone has told contradictory stories as to how he obtained it—there's some suspicion that it's actually a normal miscarried fetus that he outright bought for the purpose. See Mary Pezullo's Steel Magnificat blog for her research on the topic.

If I understand correctly, the "altar" in that photo appears not to have been genuine, much less consecrated. That stunt of his notwithstanding, the reason for Pavone's laicization was set out clearly: several well-documented cases of disobedience to the legitimate orders of his direct ecclesiastical superior. I'd recommend praying for the fellow.

Catholic Church's membership aside is it considered a fedaral crime to desecrate a corpse in the USA? And if so is the only reason he's not being charged is that foetuses are not considered equal to a corpse? (To be clear not being passive aggressive -pointing out his hypocrisy)

Edited by Gaiazun on Dec 27th 2022 at 11:27:59 AM