Its not that much, but still far more than Mary had. Or the Tweedles and Jersey for that matter.
edited 10th Jul '14 10:46:48 PM by lancesolous13
I'm a critical person but I'm a nice guy when you get to know me. Now, I should be writing.I don't think it was. That scene fell flat for me, since Vivian had done absolutely nothing interesting in the entire game. It's like "Was I supposed to care about any of that? 'Cause I didn't."
uh...hm...
maybe walking out of the well place wasnt the best of ideas...
if only because now 3 choices are "this choice is blank!" and the 4th is just "..." and both lead to the same thing, which is a never ending cycle of this with nothing happening.
wow uh...that...that went out of control quickly.
let time run out a 2nd time and it transported back to the confrontation in the crooked lair, but it skipped most of it, bloody mary started talking but her model was missing, the stained glass the crooked man and co escaped through wasnt broken, goergie and vivians models are invisible, the chase is skipped, and when bigby enters the club he's missing his body and is a floating disembodied head with no hair. also the walls are missing and georgie is standing up instead of resting on the seat.
i quit around there but im kind of curious as to how much worse of a trainwreck that could have gotten...
okay this time around the scene worked properly, so i finally saw the ending. it was a decent conclusion. i cant really say i liked a lot of the characters...holly, gren, woody, colin, jr, nerissa and bufkin were nice. everyone else...eeeeh.
particularly beast, who conveniently leaves out that the reason bigby almost blinded him was because beast attacked him. i didnt even hit him while he was down!
anyway: killed crooky first chance i got. the fight with bloody mary wasnt that bad, but the thing is, i felt more tension in the office with crooky than i did during the entire fight with her. considering that, the fight shouldnt have gone on as long as it did. best part of the episode was the scene in the well, even if i did end it by going "fuck this, im outta here". the bit with vivian and georgie...wasnt that strong tbh. no matter how screwed over he was, he was responsible, and his self-righteousness the entire time did not make me sympathize. at all. vivian herself i...dont really care about, either.
edited 11th Jul '14 1:29:53 PM by Tarsen
Finally played episode 5 almost a week later.
-insert standard "holy shit" reaction I have after I play anything Telltale makes-
Seems I'm alone in absolutely loving The Bloody Mary fight? Yeah, there wasn't much dialogue, but did there need to be? It was a fight between a giant wolfman (later actual wolf) and a twisted abomination made of mirror shards. Talking would have ruined it, I think. And it was the most hectic damn fight in the entire series. I was panicking a lot.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."I liked it as well.
On a side note, I took the imprisonment-as-raven option. It was telling that the one 'villain' I gave a real second chance to (offered her a job) was the only one who suggested permanent imprisonment, and I figured that a change in administration should be marked by a change in punishment.
Long live Cinematech. FC:0259-0435-4987Oh geeze. If I new Greenleaf was gonna do that I may have taken it.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."I don't think it needed dialogue DURING the fight, but it was a long ass time to go with no dialogue and I felt like Bloody Mary herself had very little plot relevance where the fight with her might have carried more weight for me. She was just another villain. A supremely badass one, but simply another character to fight.
I'm a critical person but I'm a nice guy when you get to know me. Now, I should be writing.She was basically the Crooked Man's Dragon. I don't think she really needed more plot relevance than that.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."Speaking of, I REALLY loved the well-deserved calling out that Greenleaf does to Snow.
Long live Cinematech. FC:0259-0435-4987And she admits she was wrong as I recall. I don't blame her for being a bit zealous either. That tree created magic that allowed a woman to disguise herself as Snow and have sex with people. I'd feel a bit violated and confused too.
I'm a critical person but I'm a nice guy when you get to know me. Now, I should be writing.I loved the Bloody Mary fight except for the part where she went into it without any silver. But other than that it was thrilling. Especially how you can succeed at the QTE signals and she'll still hit you. That's how you know shit was getting real.
edited 13th Jul '14 9:26:41 PM by Spirit
#IceBearForPresidentOnly difference was that you block.
Long live Cinematech. FC:0259-0435-4987You try to block. Still fail, because when you're made of glass, you hurt even when you're blocked.
noisivelet naht nuf erom era srorrimPlayed and beat the first two episodes. This game is compelling so far. I managed to never have the Beast at my mercy on my first try, which makes me feel accomplished. Apparently I'm part of a rare group.
One of the things I noticed is that the game appears to keep trying to push me towards thinking the Woodsman has something to do with the murders, when I'm pretty sure he has nothing to do with it. That strikes me as kind of odd.
edited 15th Jul '14 7:59:08 AM by Jinxmenow
"Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy."Really? I always felt like the game was going out of its way to make you think Woody wasn't involved in the murders. It was kind of ambiguous after episode 1, though.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."Agreed. The general tone around his character never screamed 'Something is going on here' and that's why I got Dee at Episode 1's end and not him; He wasn't acting like a Killer at all while Dee is a complete '?'.
So, I suppose this is a fair time to ask the question; What does the title mean then? I'm not sure if its as straight forward as 'The Wolf Among Us (is Sherif Bigby Wolf)' or if there's some deeper meaning here...
Or, considering earlier episodes had lead up of 'Bigby, is that you?' its possible the title might have tied in better with that plot?
I'm a critical person but I'm a nice guy when you get to know me. Now, I should be writing.I think it also refers to the Crooked Man. The one who is preying on all of Fabletown.
It's a reference to the phrase "a wolf in sheep's clothing". The wolf wears the sheep's clothing so it can walk freely among the sheep (and so more easily catch and eat them).
So in addition to the obvious reference to Bigby, as an actual wolf, it can be a reference to many things. The Fables hidden away in a small neighbourhood in New York City, the Crooked Man keeping his criminal dealings under wraps and outsourcing all his dirty work to pretty much everyone else, and even Faith, concealing her identity by glamouring herself as Nerissa.
Really though, it's only called that because they're not allowed to use the word "Fable" in the title.
EDIT: Also, I think you really need to let it go with the missing lines. They don't even sound like they were that important in whatever the original plan was.
edited 17th Jul '14 4:42:32 PM by BadWolf21
Why can't they use "Fable"?
DumboBecause of Fable. Microsoft owns a trademark on the use of the word Fable in video game titles.
I figured it was something dumb like that was the reason for not using the comic title for the game
" I did the right thing, didn't I? It all worked out in the end." "In the end? Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends."Me want season two. Starring Cinderella.
Stand Fast, Stand Strong, Stand TogetherTWAU lore in a minute, fast facts, and comic lore in a minute.
#IceBearForPresidentInfo on Season Two:
edited 18th Aug '14 11:25:07 PM by SilentColossus
Vivian really didn't have that much depth. She barely says anything, and you don't even realize she's a villain until you walk into the Crooked Man's room at the end of Episode 4.