Someone keeps saying that if this Kickstarter's a scam, then so's the Double Fine Adventure game. I'm not entirely sure how to react to that.
On that note, if the end product is a video game, does it still count as charity/personal funding/cause/"fund my life?"
According to the Kotaku article Kickstarter says no.
So why's this one being singled out? Because of the whole "fund my daughter's trip to camp" thing?
To be fair, if all this is for is a trip to camp, that doesn't seem Kickstarter-worthy at all. Especially if this camp is a disreputable as I've heard.
Insert witty and clever quip here. My page, as the database hates my handle.Its a loophole. Its no longer "Fund my daughter going to 'RPG Camp'" its not "Fund my daughter's game after she goes to camp" to which I wonder how all that money can be used to fund a 9 year old's RPG Maker game. Assuming thats even what is going t obe done with the money.
The only money I can think of being required for a single person making a game is that of publishing. Oh, and the program/s used to make it; they'll have an initial cost.
Kickstarter should really have a way to close donations after reaching the goal. There's lots of projects where more money means a better product, but there's also lots of things that just can't use that much more money. Seeing as how this isn't the first time the internet's donated tons of money to something that couldn't use that much, and how many times people have gotten angry over other people not thinking about what the expenses actually are, it seems like a pretty obvious solution to me.
edited 27th Mar '13 4:22:14 AM by Swampertrox
She asked moot (Founder of 4chan and notable Sigourney Weaver lookalike) on what to do with the money. What.
EIGHT GLORIOUS SIDESGuess she was moot about the money.
my drawing blog ya'll UPDATES 10 TIMES A MONTH WOW, THIS IS STRAIGHT UP MUH SOGGY KNEEAce is a 30$ or so engine. She's a nine year old. The math is simple here.
I still think all this could have been avoided had the mother shell out 30 bucks. Or, heaven forbid, pirate it.
Hell, she could've made that much money running a lemonade stand, doing chores for neighbors, etc. I'm surprised her mother never suggested to her, y'know, trying to raise the money on her own with something like that. She's a businesswoman—you would hope she'd want to instill the value of a dollar into her children.
Insert witty and clever quip here. My page, as the database hates my handle.I saw that Indigogo project. If you compare the pictures closely, you can see it's not the same product — similar, certainly, but there are distinctive differences. If the person who had written that inflammatory blog post had done their due diligence they would have noticed it. There is no scam there. The people she was representing were offering a product for a price. Not enough people wanted the product at that price, so the project failed.
edited 27th Mar '13 11:23:10 PM by Nettacki
...does he care to explain what the difference was, then?
Insert witty and clever quip here. My page, as the database hates my handle.I just asked him. I'm waiting for a response as I speak.
http://theaibots.com/earlier-wilson-family-crowd-funder-sheds-yet-more-kickstarter-doubt/
Okay there is no denying this is a scam now.
Oh dear god. 22k for an RPG Maker Naruto game.
edited 28th Mar '13 4:17:19 PM by Thorn14
If this were a boy, not as many people would be complaining.
In other words, someone honestly thinks we're hating on this project because of the feminism angle.
I learned a valuable lesson today.
You can easily manipulate the gaming community by exploiting feminism.
Gamers are mad because someone's using things people are vulnerable to in order to get money for something they could buy with 30 bucks. And they're getting paid thousands for it.
That money could go to far better uses. Like buying better games than what'll come from this. Or feeding the hungry or something.
The video Thorn posted got removed by whoever posted it; what was in it?
but the question remains (for certain people): Why should you care what people do with their money? So they're probably pissing it away to a project that may or may not be a scam. Why should you be concerned? It's not *your* money. And even if it was your money, it's highly likely you're just gonna waste a dollar on it.
Note: this is not my viewpoint. This is what I can glean from the viewpoints of those who are defending this Kickstarter.
Her looking up google images for Naruto pictures and saying it was going to be a Naruto game.
Because it threatens the integrity of kickstarter and the good projects on it.
Kickstarter had integrity once?
Insert witty and clever quip here. My page, as the database hates my handle.Another article critical of the kickstarter, albeit less biased and with less conspiracy stuff than those other ones. A very good read. My only issue with it is that while the author discussed the usage of bullying and the gender issues as a selling point, she never mentioned how it's being used to invalidate the criticism by saying critics hate the issues, even though they aren't even actually part of the Kickstarter's goal.
I like how she's also exploiting her 2 sons as well for this.