Politics of Mass Effect

The Turians were doing well, yes, but I think that's because the Hierarchy actually took notice of the whole "Reaper" thing - the fact that Garrus is advising them at a senior level makes you think that he may have been on site for quite a while.

Also, the entirety of their species is service driven - they've all been either a militia man or done the whole starship troopers "Serve to be a citizen" thing, which covers emergency services, mandatory weapon training etc.

That said, their homeworld was still getting trounced - just a lot slower than elsewhere.

I felt sorry for the elcor. And will forever hold it against bioware for not showing elcor in combat. COME ON!

What about the kakliosaurs? We never got to see those!

We have dismissed that claim.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.

edited 2nd Jan '15 1:34:23 PM by HellmanSabian

Didn't Garrus tell his dad about it and his dad pulled some strings to get Palaven to prepare?

Yep.

Yeah, and IIRC, Primarch Fedorian put Garrus himself in charge of the Reaper Task Force.

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Please tell me that's not his actual name.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.

That was the name of the Primarch who died when the Reapers first hit Palaven, yes. The one the players work with is Primarch Victus.

Who is only Primarch because everyone above him is dead.

Does he refer to FemShep as m'lady?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.

Fedorian is dead by the time you get to Turian space and I don't recall whether Victus does.

He probably euphoria'd himself to death.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.

I was waiting for Primarch Trilbyan...

So yeah, Heirarchy, all about skill etc. Except for Nepotism ;)

Also, the Turian Councillor, whilst influential, seems to not carry that much weight in the Hierarchy itself - he is an external governmental representative and we have seen the other Council races quite happily contravene or ignore the Council when they see fit.

(The STG looking at uplifting other races, indulging in biological warfare research inside citadel space, genetic research etc; the Asari hiding Prothean relics; the Hierarchy actually doing their own Reaper preparation_

I just wanted to keep exploring that universe. I also want to visit a Volus planet; yes you'd spend your time inside a pressurised colony, but still...

I'm hoping future games let us explore the culture more, or we get accompanying media that expands. I loved the ME 1 Codex and its narration. Gave the world depth. The subsequent games felt pared down, the potential of the universe trimmed. Gameplay influencing narrative overmuch, perhaps?

Also, have the Elcor been pretty much wiped out now? I know you rescue some but I thought it was implied their homeworld was pretty much razed.

The Council is more like the United Nations, I think, with the Citadel Council being the Security Council.

I wouldn't put it quite that way. The Citadel Council is effectively an independent force in its own right, from what I've seen; the Republics, the Union, the Hierarchy and the Alliance appoint Councilors, but the Councilors themselves are the last word, with authority over the Citadel Fleet and the Spectres (to the extent that anyone controls the Spectres).

They certainly seem to hold sway and enforce certain strictures on major policy. Such as AI research, slavery etc, but they're quite happy to plead impotence when it suits (The Terminus systems and the Traverse). P;lus they seem perfectly happy to turn a blind eye to their own race's issues (Stuff happening on Surr'Kesh, with the questionable ethical treatments by salarian scientists); the hidden Prthean relics on Thessia... the Turians less so because they're all about DUTY and ORDER.

They are quite happy to push the Systems alliance to comply, but the SA push back on a fair few things. I think they could overrule a planets authority, but I wonder how that'd go over if they did... they never challenged the Batarians over slavery, despite it being illegal both for membership of the Council and in Council space; they bull the Quarians, yes and treat a lot of the client races with impatience and disdain.

But if push came to shove, they seem to not be direct extensions of their home governments... I wonder of their governments answer to the Council or if Councillors have to answer to their government...?

The asari would definitely answer on both accounts for their part in nearly destroying the galaxy.

Yeah, the asari need to be sanctioned and stripped of their Council seat. I had 0 sympathy with them after that. Arrogant space elves who can do no wrong.

If I ever start writing that Mass Effect fanfic I've had on hiatus that's going to be something that happens. The asari and their beacon get called out and Citadel space flips its shit.

I'm doing a chapter / 3rd story in the fanfic series I'm doing, so it's in progress. One of the elements will be the Salarians and their attitude towards the krogan and the other the Asari and the fallout from their witholding of info.

Lots of civil war potential and fracturing politics in the Republics.

That sounds like a really bad idea honestly. In what way would alienating the Asari (probably still the biggest economic power in the galaxy) in the middle of reconstruction efforts be a good idea? It seems like it'd screw over everybody.

edited 8th Jan '15 10:11:13 AM by TheCuriousFan

Regardless it needs to happen. You can't not only break the law that you made up, but also almost cost the Galaxy the most important war in its history just because "Oh, we want to stay on top!"

Campbell and Westrmoreland's conversation put it best.

Campbell: "When this war is over, I hope we find every race that sat back as we bled and get some payback."

Westmoreland: "Yeah, that's a great plan. Follow war with more war."

edited 8th Jan '15 1:07:47 PM by Spirit

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Geez, people and their revenge fan fics