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Duplicate Trope: Redundant Parody get usage counts

 26 Spark 9, Wed, 13th Mar '13 7:18:08 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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The pages have been merged, can we get this thread cleared out to make an opening?
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 28 Helter Skelter, Sun, 12th May '13 5:53:52 PM Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Wait, there's one thing: the trope counts parodies that parody something that was "a serious plot point, which invalidates the parody's argument". How is this redundant or nominal? You might not like something being made fun of, but by our own wiki's definition, "A parody is a twisted imitation of another artistic work. Some aspects may be exaggerated, and others downplayed.". Wouldn't that count as "exaggerated"?

That's misleading wording then. That refers to stuff like, say, Harry Potter, where the main character's entry into puberty is a serious plot point through much of the series. So if a would-be parody says, "what would Harry Potter be like if the main character... became a teenager?!" that would be a Redundant Parody.

On the other hand, a parody could make fun of how the series actually portrayed the character becoming a teenager, and that wouldn't be a redundant parody.

edited 16th May '13 1:58:36 PM by AmyGdala

 30 Helter Skelter, Sun, 12th May '13 7:37:13 PM Relationship Status: Drift compatible
[up]That makes perfect sense. So then the entry is right in that some examples must be this trope, but misleadingly doesn't make the exception that parodying their teenhood is indeed a parody. I will alter the wording of the description and examples to make sense of that. In fact, I can probably just take out the "serious point" bit, since that's covered by "exact same material". Can the trope be locked, then?

edited 12th May '13 7:40:02 PM by helterskelter

 31 Septimus Heap, Fri, 17th May '13 6:03:50 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
OK, it looks like Amy Gdala merged the pages already (and improperly, as the wicks are still unfixed), probably shortly before the crowner hooking. Should we just complete the merge as it is and then close this thread? I would favour that.

 32 Helter Skelter, Fri, 17th May '13 9:02:03 AM Relationship Status: Drift compatible
[up] Given that literally all of the examples of Nominal Parody were Redundant Parody anyway, I switched most of them except the still-intact Nominal Parody and Nominal Parody, which I didn't feel like touching. I'll have to ask for it to be changed on some Locked Pages.

 33 Septimus Heap, Sun, 19th May '13 4:42:31 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
OK, I took care of the tagging and the last few wicks (except for a soon-to-be-cut orphaned laconic page and a locked page that has an edit request waiting).

 34 Willbyr, Sun, 19th May '13 5:48:12 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
Is there anything left to do with this one?
 35 Septimus Heap, Sun, 19th May '13 5:49:42 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Nothing, except for the edit and thread lock requests (I already took care of everything else).

 36 Willbyr, Sun, 19th May '13 6:03:19 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
I took care of the edit request, so I'll shut this down.
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Page Action: Parody Tropes
11th May '13 4:19:08 AM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
At issue:
Nominal Parody and Redundant Parody are charged to be redundant tropes.
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