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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53076: Jan 18th 2018 at 5:20:39 AM

They at least came up with a reason for her looking different, and they hadn't seen Jasper in a long time. It's not like the Rubies (or maybe just Eyeball) didn't notice her appearance was off.

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#53077: Jan 18th 2018 at 5:22:56 AM

"It can cut through a Gem's physical form in an instant! Destroying the body, but never the Gem."

That is an indication of what it does when it is used for its intended purpose. It is not an indication of its limitations. It's designed so that you will never smash a gem when poofing a body. It doesn't say that the gem will somehow be invincible against it once the body is poofed.

EDIT: Okay. Dropping it.

edited 18th Jan '18 5:23:30 AM by Sereg

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#53078: Jan 18th 2018 at 6:24:27 AM

One possibility is that the Diamonds are so different from the Gems they rule over that the normal rule of 'destroy the form but never the gem itself' did not apply when it came Rose attacking Pink,and now that we know that Pink was roughly Stevonnie's height it makes it even more likely that Rose shattered her since the other Diamonds were protected by their size and she wasn't

I would say size and powers but there's been no indication that Pink didn't have powers,just that she was short

edited 18th Jan '18 6:25:04 AM by Ultimatum

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thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#53079: Jan 18th 2018 at 8:49:32 AM

Takafumi Hori made another SU animation, this time of Connie fighting the Holo-Pearls. (It was supposed to be for the show's 4th anniversary last November, but I sure as hell am not complaining that something he made in his spare time was late.)

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#53080: Jan 18th 2018 at 11:14:42 AM

I doubt they would have added the question of how Pink actually died in the trial if the solution were that Rose stabbed her like everyone believed.

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#53081: Jan 18th 2018 at 11:38:12 AM

Considering Bismuth made add-ons for weapons made of light, a sword that can't shatter gems isn't implausible.

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Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#53082: Jan 18th 2018 at 12:00:16 PM

Also, kinda weird to use a sword for a job like that when the Breaking Point is available. Unless it was more of a spur-of-the-moment kinda thing, but that just raises further questions.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53083: Jan 18th 2018 at 12:12:25 PM

The breaking point honestly didn't seem that efficient and it's not like gems are hard to shatter.

edited 18th Jan '18 12:14:04 PM by LSBK

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#53084: Jan 18th 2018 at 12:46:10 PM

We only think it's inefficient because of Fridge Logic. It's never been brought up In-Universe.

By the show's rules, it could be the most broken weapon in the show, but without a reason to say so we'll never know.

edited 18th Jan '18 1:04:54 PM by xanderiskander

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#53085: Jan 18th 2018 at 1:01:45 PM

How do we know Gems are easy to shatter? We've never seen anyone shattered.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#53086: Jan 18th 2018 at 1:05:30 PM

Thinking about it, I don't think they'll go into specific details on Pink Diamond's death or shattering in general because that's morbid, and this is still a show made for kids. If Rose didn't actually do it, maybe it being The Un-Twist was the reason CN was okay with them revealing Rose shattered Pink Diamond in the first place.

edited 18th Jan '18 1:08:16 PM by xanderiskander

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#53087: Jan 18th 2018 at 1:09:45 PM

The trial question was not about whether she stabbed her or something else. The question was about how she managed to get close enough to stab her.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#53088: Jan 18th 2018 at 1:13:17 PM

No the question was literally "How did you shatter Pink Diamond?". Zircon asked how she could have gotten that close.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53089: Jan 18th 2018 at 1:14:20 PM

Jasper was just going to shatter Amethyst in her bare hands, and you can say "but that's Jasper" but we've been told that gems were being shattered all over the war, it's not like it wasn't a thing before the Breaking Point.

The Breaking Point was created specifically to shatter gems, that doesn't mean, nor imply it's impossible, or even particularly difficult, to shatter one without it.

Also, this was like couple of pages back but going "Rose was framed but didn't tell Garnet or Pearl because that's what Rose does" is not a satisfying answer at all, and makes no sense. Rose had secrets but they were things she was involved in. Her being framed and not having anything to do with Pink being shattered but even letting those closet to her think she did just because isn't being mysterious, it's just idiotic, and would be a sign of bad writing.

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#53090: Jan 18th 2018 at 1:17:52 PM

Jasper was just going to shatter Amethyst in her bare hands
Said gemstone was also severely cracked from falling—like a hundred feet onto a rock, but compared to how strong gems must be, that's pretty meager.

By the show's rules, it could be the most broken weapon in the show, but without a reason to say so we'll never know.
This is the same show were spears and whips are used along things like ship-mounted laser cannons. Realistic weapon effectiveness cannot really be expected.

Steven with Rose's sword did beat Bismuth using the Breaking Point, so it's not an overwhelmingly powerful—just think of it as any other weapon, except it's considerably more likely to result in an immediate shattering.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#53091: Jan 18th 2018 at 1:36:12 PM

Whatever the method was I think Zircon makes it clear the point of the trial was that shattering a Diamond is very different, and extremely hard to do compared to shattering any other kind of gem, and they wanted to confirm how that was possible.

edited 18th Jan '18 1:40:02 PM by xanderiskander

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53092: Jan 18th 2018 at 1:38:13 PM

I mean, I didn't get that impression. I can believe it if they say that later, but nothing that's been said now leads me to believe that was part of what they were questioning.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#53093: Jan 18th 2018 at 1:50:46 PM

The only question Blue asked was how Rose shattered her. And the only part of Steven's statement she responded to was the weapon Rose used. Zircon asked how she got close enough to convince them she couldn't have done it, but Blue wasn't concerned with that part at all initially.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53094: Jan 18th 2018 at 2:07:53 PM

I don't think that was supposed to have any special meaning besides Blue's anguish. She wanted to hear the person say the words, she wasn't seriously questioning how someone was capable of doing it. That was my read of it, anyway.

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#53095: Jan 18th 2018 at 6:16:56 PM

Bottom line: the whole situation just doesn't add up. Which is why I think it'd be best if we take a break from discussing it until we get more info on the matter.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53096: Jan 18th 2018 at 6:19:28 PM

I mean, I'm fine with that. My issue is more with people saying there are simple and satisfying solutions to the whole scenario. If that were true they'd just come out and say it.

Lancelot07 Since: Apr, 2015
#53097: Jan 19th 2018 at 1:08:00 AM

@tesoroazul, I love the idea of Ruby, Sapphire and Opal being around for a week to see who can hold out the longest. Sugar should take notes. evil grin

I still can't get over that Zircon is voiced by the same chick who is Princess Carolyn in BoJack Horseman.

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#53098: Jan 20th 2018 at 6:21:02 AM

How popular is Steven Universe outside of the U.S., is something that i'm curious about.

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#53099: Jan 20th 2018 at 6:45:26 AM

It's got it's over seas fans but the majority are in the US territories

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#53100: Jan 20th 2018 at 7:29:08 AM

That question prompted me to look up the Japanese version of "Stronger Than You".

A playlist of other language versions of the song: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfRBig-44MpxTIWiz9sWwQIsL6F5Zpd5c

edited 20th Jan '18 7:30:58 AM by sgamer82


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