Mad Max: Fury Road

Yeah, that sounds plausible enough. I think Miller's cinematographer does it in greater detail though.

Nope, it has been completely rechromated on a scene-per-scene base, pun intended. Much higher contrast, detail level, etc.

edited 22nd Nov '16 1:00:51 PM by TAPETRVE

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somebody did a comparison of the black and chrome vs a desaturated film. They're different.

Also, i think it should have been called grease and chrome.

Hey look, Fury Road is now in animated form!

A good vid about setup and payoff.

…I think only doctors or medicine students picked up about the air bubble thing. >.>

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Or people who read about medics.

I didn't pick up on the first part.

It was all still awesome.

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I understood the pneumothorax thing but i had no idea the film was referring to an air embolism or whatever when he took the needle out. I thought it just referred to relief in general.

Like the video said, it's almost like the writer went to medical school or something.

I didn't realize that's what they were implying either. I just assumed it was one of those 'I survived a big explosion/attack/hit and my ears are blown out for a second' moments.

But its SUPER neat that there's an actual reason for it. Goddamn this movie impresses me more and more every time.

It's actually quite a miracle that both Max and Nux survived that at all. >.>

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Yeah, i get the reference, but I still don't think it's an air embolism. For one thing, removing a needle doesn't actually clear an air embolism. Second, it's generally not something you feel right away until the air bubble moves into your heart or your brain and something REALLY bad suddenly happens.

I think the video author was really stretching it there. The sound design was really just indicating relief in general. The air sound might indicate to the audience to breathe a breath they didn't realise they were holding. I.e. blue curtains are just blue.

edited 3rd Feb '17 3:24:04 PM by willyolio

It's not as if the director of the film was an ER doctor after all, and did first aid on the first film because the budget was somewhere between slim and non-existent. Oh wait...

completely missing the point, which was already mentioned and addressed.

edited 3rd Feb '17 5:30:22 PM by willyolio

It's not just that one scene with the sound of air being released, it's the payoff at the end of the movie, where he has to puncture one of Furiosa's lungs in order to let the air out. One is planting, the other is payoff.

again, it's a huge stretch. Pneumothorax and air embolism are two completely different things. It's not like blood transfusion -> blood transfusion.

It's a stretch to consider the first scene to even be hinting at air embolism, THEN it's another stretch to think that an air embolism is "planting" anything to teach the audience about pneumothorax.

Max does not have pneumothorax. He does not jab himself with a needle to release any air, because that's not how you treat an air embolism anyway. He pulls a needle OUT.

Furiosa does not have an air embolism. She does not need anything removed from her veins, she needs her thorax to be punctured. It's also unrelated to the blood transfusion, which is a separate procedure entirely.

So no, that wasn't an example of "planting". Regular people won't get it because they don't know if they're related, and medically trained people won't get it either because they KNOW those situations aren't related.

Miller put in a pneumothorax treatment because that's just something that happens when you get stabbed in the lungs. He put in Max's relief when he pulls out a needle because needles in the neck are uncomfortable. Blue curtains are just blue.

edited 4th Feb '17 4:59:14 PM by willyolio

Except for the fact that we can hear air being released after he pulls the needle. That's kind of the entire point.

I explained it above. The rush of air sound effect is to make the audience breathe. There is a moment of tension, near silence, that makes people stop breathing. When someone does something intense they stop breathing. Like intensely concentrating on pulling stuff out of your neck.

When max breathes in relief, you get a rush of air sound effect, and the audience is subconsciously told to breathe with him.

There is no medical condition that would cause a rush of air to come out of a neck vein. To get that you would need a corpse attached to a bicycle pump. This sounds a lot like someone who doesn't have any medical knowledge trying to look for symbolism that isn't there.

Also: pointing out that George Miller was a doctor works against the whole "air bubble" thing. A medical professional would never make such a comically wrong interpretation of what an air embolism is, or how it acts. That's worse than shocking-a-flatline-heart kind of medically incorrect. Ergo, not the kind of uneducated mistake that Miller would make.

edited 4th Feb '17 8:44:15 PM by willyolio

You should leave that on the video's comments section.

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Or it's a symbol to signal the fact that he got the air bubble out.

The sound of air rushing out is a symbol. Of course it doesn't actually sound like air escaping. But, at the same time, it's entirely possible that he got rid of the air bubble in his blood by removing the blockage. (Nobody said that Max had an actual embolism, just that he had an air bubble — the bubble had yet to block his vein, though, so taking away the needle, he was able to release the air — which was causing him a lot of pain — and prevent an actual embolism.)

edited 5th Feb '17 2:30:20 AM by alliterator

Again, you're arguing from the perspective of someone who has no medical knowledge, trying to force some symbolism where it doesn't exist.

Air bubbles do not form that way, and they are not released that way. If the bubble was stagnant at the location of the needle, then it is by definition an embolism. Dr. Miller would not make such an amateur mistake.

Ergo, the air sound is NOT symbolic of air in the veins.

edited 5th Feb '17 9:06:32 AM by willyolio

I think we can all agree that it would have been awesome if that planting had been true, but it wasn't, and that's OK. Infinity minus one remains infinity.

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Then it wasn't an air bubble, but rather a subcutaneous emphysema.

edited 5th Feb '17 9:40:06 AM by alliterator

The tension pneumothorax (awesome word) bit made me remember my CLS courses back in the Army, and I was like "I know how to do that!"

"again, it's a huge stretch. Pneumothorax and air embolism are two completely different things. It's not like blood transfusion -> blood transfusion. "

yeah, I disagree too in that, the video said the delibering have to create a satisfaying payoff, otherwise you have the "martha" situation in Bv S, the whole thing of "air in the neck" delibering a pneumothorax sound waaaaaay off since is so little almost everyone would mix it.

also, Im wearing of the whole "the writer trust the audience" since most of the time sound like pretencious way of saying "I like this easy-to-miss foreshowing"

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