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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#1: Jan 11th 2013 at 9:25:47 PM

2160p TVs are coming up, as seen at CES. Are the upcoming next-gen consoles going to support that resolution? The Wii U probably won't, because it was built with 1080p in mind, but it's likely that the other consoles could support that.

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#2: Jan 11th 2013 at 9:31:23 PM

Blegh. Arms race.

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#4: Jan 11th 2013 at 9:39:10 PM

I actually doubt it. Will the new consoles even be able to render 3840 x 2160 at 60fps? Even if they can, you'd still need the yet-to-be-released HDMI 2.0 cables to deliver it to the TV. Besides, how many people are going to have the absolute top of the line equipment necessary to benefit from it?

Heck, can you even tell the difference over upscaled 1080p?

If I had to guess, I would think 9th gen would be more likely.

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#5: Jan 11th 2013 at 11:56:34 PM

...Do we even need 2160p resolution? 1080p seems not even to make much of a substantial difference from 720p, so how could 2160p make picture clarity any better at all?

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#6: Jan 12th 2013 at 12:02:55 AM

We do not have fly's eyes. We don't need anymore sharper pixels that consume unwarranted amount of processing power.

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#7: Jan 12th 2013 at 12:21:41 AM

^, ^^ Tell that to those with bright idea of 4k resolution...

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#8: Jan 12th 2013 at 12:32:09 AM

Eh, arms races always happen with tech like this. It's natural to start thinking of stuff like this as a natural conclusion, and not care about what applications it could have.

Hell, this could have applications for massive screens, in a general sense. Broadcasted e-sports games in a large, public square, anyone?

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#9: Jan 12th 2013 at 12:36:55 AM

They do that already. And how much better can they look, seriously? Do we need to see every bead of sweat on the players' faces? (We already can, and I'd argue that that's going to extremes.)

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#10: Jan 12th 2013 at 1:07:09 AM

I think it's just a useless chase for luxury, like most things these days involving supercars.

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#11: Jan 12th 2013 at 1:33:10 AM

Don't knock supercars. The Henessey Venom GT and the Shelby North America Tuatara have the right idea.

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#12: Jan 12th 2013 at 1:42:58 AM

What is a supercar? Is that like a Batmobile?

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Nettacki Since: Jan, 2010
#13: Jan 12th 2013 at 1:50:19 AM

[up]Kinda like that, but without the crazy gadgets.

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#14: Jan 12th 2013 at 2:02:12 AM

Sounds kinda pointless then. But, then, I know nothing about cars (something that my friend mocks me endlessly about), so maybe I'm missing something.

edited 12th Jan '13 2:03:12 AM by 0dd1

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#15: Jan 12th 2013 at 2:06:42 AM

More like this sort of thing.

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0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#16: Jan 12th 2013 at 2:09:41 AM

Oh, flashy expensive cars. That's all you had to say. I don't get the appeal, aside from "they look cool" and "this shows off how much money I have."

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#17: Jan 12th 2013 at 5:34:08 AM

Please no. Making games is expensive as is and we don't even have enough of these T Vs on the market for it to be worth it. Maybe when the ninth generation rolls around.

WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#18: Jan 12th 2013 at 9:18:29 AM

[up]Even back in the Sixth Generation, when HD was still just a luxury, the PS 2 and Xbox could output 1080p.

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#19: Jan 12th 2013 at 9:29:32 AM

I am of the school that such a thing is pointless, panders to the millionaires out there who can afford the kit, yet who are too busy screwing money out of the ones less considerably rich than them to have time to play games at all and is taking us no further forward in what matters about computer and console gaming.

Gameplay. That's it.

WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#20: Jan 12th 2013 at 10:12:04 AM

[up]But all developers progressed to 1080p when they knew that development costs would go up. I don't know if developers care about those costs anymore.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#21: Jan 12th 2013 at 12:00:59 PM

A good number of games aren't true HD anyway, they are upscaled from something like 1038 for better control over contrast ratios or something. In any case I've been noticing that the biggest difference between 720 and 1080 depends largely on the refresh rate, if both are at 60hz it's impossible to tell the difference.

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#22: Jan 12th 2013 at 1:07:24 PM

Hell, I'd say a good test is to find a video online that offers both 720p and 1080p playback, watch it both ways, and see if there's any obvious difference. To the naked eye, there generally will be none, unless you're really, REALLY scrutinizing the picture.

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#23: Jan 12th 2013 at 1:17:25 PM

Don't want to break it to you guys, but I'm sure you remember a time when 60-inch tvs were unnecessarily big and you only know it existed because they appeared on MTV Cribs.

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#24: Jan 12th 2013 at 1:18:14 PM

I still think 60 inches is a bit much.

And I never watched MTV.

edited 12th Jan '13 1:18:37 PM by 0dd1

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#25: Jan 12th 2013 at 1:21:45 PM

Well yeah, but you got my point. Ultra-High Definition T Vs might be (at the very least) half the size of your average wall, and while it might take long, they will be there someday.

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