The 85th Oscar Animated Nominations

But did Brave have Bowser, M. Bison and Dr. Eggman sitting together? I DON'T THINK SO!

Speaking of, did anyone else think M. Bison's voice was all wrong?

More of a thing for the Wi R thread, that one.

Uh, no. I was talking about something else. This is me just trying to psychoanalyze the Academy. I like figuring out how things work.

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. Could you please reciprocate?

edited 26th Feb '13 6:50:57 PM by Mort08

That's playing dirty

No, I'm just annoyed at the so-called Disney and Pixar quality hierarchy(or hell, Pixar being the ultimate standard for quality, even though I love Pixar and Disney). If you're going to say that Brave is a weak film, say it's a weak film, dragging Disney in and saying it'd be an okay Disney film seems to imply that it's fine if Disney makes it which I find rather insulting to both studios. Maybe I'm misinterpreting you though.

edited 26th Feb '13 11:19:36 PM by blueflame724

Yeah, sitting together and contributing precisely jack shit to the plot, despite being built up as critical to the movie, not to mention the primary focus of the advertising campaign and appearing on all the posters. And people say Brave had misleading advertising...

It's called a joke, yanno.

...and I also thought anyone seriously criticizing a film entitled "Wreckit Ralph" for being about...oh...the title character, and not the adventures of a bunch of other copyrighted characters, was kind of an idiot.

Don't you think everyone's idiot though?

Well gee, sorry for expecting the single most hyped aspect of a movie to actually play a role of some significance in the movie.

Oh, and Mickey and Bugs were just SO VITAL to the plot of Roger Rabbit, amirite? Because that was the same gimmick in the ads for that movie, and they also contributed jack-diddly-squat to the plot.

edited 27th Feb '13 2:03:34 PM by maxwellelvis

Then... those ads were misleading too? I don't see how "but another movie did it!" changes that.

Vox are you serious? Why would Disney make a movie about video game characters that they don't even own(alright Public Domain, pipe down for a moment...). If you're asking "I wish they played a larger role" fine, but even that's rather subjective.

Did you honestly expect the video game characters to play that big of a role? That they would be more than a cameo? Arguably though, they do play a role. They establish the kind of character Ralph and the rest of them are...just guys who are doing their jobs.

And of course they'd be hyped, I'm sure even video game fans were aware they were just cameos and went anyway.

I'll stop here, because I have a feelings you're trolling.

edited 27th Feb '13 2:43:21 PM by blueflame724

One of the biggest complaints against Brave is that the advertising campaign misrepresented what kind of movie it would be, which is a legitimate point. But WIR is just of guilty of that, if not more so. I don't remember a single trailer that wasn't 100% "Look, famous video game characters! And maybe some stuff with this Ralph guy but who cares about that, it's Bowser and a Pac Man ghost!" I wasn't expecting it to be a Massive Multi Player Crossover all about established characters interacting, but I was expecting them to be bit more than glorified cameos.

My point is, you can't trash Brave for having a misleading ad campaign when WIR had exactly the same problem. I really don't see how this claim is outlandish unbelievable trolling.

edited 27th Feb '13 2:56:20 PM by Vox

All the trailers I saw had the Bad Guy meeting in the first part, but then focused on the actual plot and never pretended that the other bad guys were relevant to the story.

Either way, the Oscars are just awards on a fancy stage with Seth Mc Farlane and some trophies. They only pretend to care about animation and in the end it shows.

Okay...so you were hoping that they weren't just glorified cameos even though the trailer showed them as such? That's not really misleading, that's just you hoping that their roles were larger.

Since I realized I didn't put out my Brave views, I'll say that I actually enjoyed it. I know it's a flawed film, and perhaps not the strongest of the nominees, but I just enjoyed the emotion behind the relationship between Elinor and Merida. It has its anvilicious moments, but it was alright.

edited 27th Feb '13 7:53:37 PM by blueflame724

Everyone in the Internet was aware those wouldn't be more than cameos even before the movie came out, IIRC. I think the makers themselves were open about that. I'd say the 'fault' falls squarely on the marketing department, but that's a common ocurrence with movie trailers in general.

It's still a sweet Easter egg. It doesn't make a movie by itself, but I hoped it was clear it was a joke post since I admited not having watched Brave yet less than two pages before it.

Considering that none of the ads for the game showed the copyrighted characters outside the bad guys meeting and the one scene where Felix speaks Q-bert, it should have been painfully obvious they weren't going to do more than that.

Indeed, the whole idea that the movie was really going to feature licensed video game characters as plot important or extremely prominent is more from fans hyping themselves up before the movie came out - especially internet hype - than the movie trailer's for the film.

Though I suppose the posters didn't help.

To me it was exactly the same as Roger Rabbit. The story wasn't about those characters, but their inclusion in the film's plot served to add some legitimacy to the setting of an arcade and the world the fictional games inhabit. Not to mention it instantly allows the viewer familiar with the source material to believe the people writing for the film are fans themselves.

edited 28th Feb '13 8:11:40 PM by Rebochan

It made you believe these Disney original characters exist on the same level as Sonic, and Zangief and the rest. Same with the games they came from- I would guess that they wanted to make the movie because they wanted to really make those 3 games!!

edited 28th Feb '13 8:15:48 PM by Shota