The Wanderer
I'm not exactly a fan myself, it defeats the whole purpose of willful anonymity on the Internet in the first place.
Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
Yeah, I mean a majority of people go online to escape the things going on in their real one, and that anonymity lets people clear themselves of their inhibitions, which is nice.
And preemptively for the person who goes "Well people act like trolls without those inhibitions! I want people held accountable!"
Fuck you. Go find your own internet.
scratching at .8, just hopin'
As long as it's permissible to lie when making an account, and hold multiple accounts, I'm not worried. Let the liabilities fall on Jack Hoff, from Toldyamamma, OH.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
And when they "optionally" let you "secure" your account with your social security number or a passport photo or something? And then eventually require it?
I value my privacy to a neurotic degree, sure. I'm not the guy living in a bunker somewhere, but when it comes to the forms of privacy and anonymity that I'm fond it, I get fucking crazy about it.
The best thing people can do is nip this shit in the bud early.
"In distress", my ass.
Unfortunately, to paraphrase Thomas Jefferson, the natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and loss of privacy to gain ground. You (Barkey) or I may not be in a rush to surrender anonymity for often dubious advantages, but by and large outside of the Vocal Minority like us people are falling all over themselves to jump on social media's connectivity even if it means being tracked, analyzed, pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered.
All your safe space are belong to Trump
It is worse than just online world
- big data, connecting database to each other.
presidential campaign is said to have technology that can combine various database to become linked, so they know what organization you give money from (ncaa, planned parenthood) to find out what issue you interested in, they don't even have to use same name to be linked.
in the future database from credit cards company, bookstore, facebook, etc could be bought by some technology company, they run it through some program, then they have one big linked database, even you have multiple username, it can still be easily detected, the big database then could be sold to interested company, like employer organization.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/07/privacy_protection
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/magazine/17credit-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
it also worse because legality of selling database information, a lot of company selling their database to others
- facial recognition technology, the trend is the technology will develop enough that any pictures of you uploaded, can easily be linked to your identities.
- cellphone tracking, this already exist and extensively used by law-enforcement, with this your real-time location will be easily tracked.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_tracking
- biometric password, if this become widespread, multiple account could easily be recognised to belong to single person.
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i think the majority is still in the usa, the technology still fairly new and europe had much stronger privacy laws.
edited 25th Nov '12 7:48:19 PM by PhilippeO
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Is that just the states or in other countries as well?
scratching at .8, just hopin'
If you're worried about being tracked via every online interaction you ever do, get over yourself, the powers that be already have that capability and probably already exercise it illegally. If you're worried about them ever having the capacity or motivation to sift through all the shit that goes on over the Internet, be less worried, because raw volume and sheer amounts of noise make the task unfeasible.
Our privacy in this day and age is safeguarded by mountains of bullshit more than anything else. I'm only worried about advertisers and potential employers getting their hands on it, and that's a matter of bitching at our legislators.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
I probably wouldn't mind as much when it is advertisers, assuming that they will at last only send me ads that I will actually be interested in as opposed to random crap that they send to everybody hoping that at least some of them are interested in their products (no, I don't need another hairdryer. OTOH, is there any PC game sales ?).
edited 25th Nov '12 8:02:10 PM by IraTheSquire
Honestly, that's the biggest pain in the ass I'm not looking forward to. I already work for the government, so they aren't who I'm worried about.
It's not that I'm worried about anybody doing anything to me, it's that not having that privacy, and feeling that vulnerable to prying eyes, gets me rather homocidal.
And aside from the bullshit, all those systems aren't in place. They have to be put in place. If you don't do something to warrant watching that gets the gubmint interested, they've got tons of other people who are first in line for that focus.
Hey guys, there's a topic I wanted to discuss here. Originally I was going to discuss it in the Technology/PC Thread after posting about it in Windows 8, but I decided it was worthy of it's own thread.
With Google, they not only harass you constantly to use your real life name in activity associated with your account, but absolutely everything google owns is associated with that account, and there's no choice in the matter. No god damnit, not only do I not want to use my RL name for my Youtube Account, but I don't want it to be my google account either.
No Microsoft, I don't want to have to use my Live account to log in to every game you make that I play, and constantly get pushed into having a messenger.
No DICE, I don't want Battlefield to be ran through a browser based application and I don't care about your efforts to push me into using that site which I only use to play one game as a social media website.
Windows 8 is a sign of times that may come. It's trying to turn your machine into a smartphone, and it wants you to stay logged in 100 percent of the time to all of your social media, messengers, and have an active log of everything you're doing. How long until Windows 8 interfaces with Facebook to where they make it automatically post which games you're playing while you're online? How long until it starts talking about what sites you go on?(First it'll be "optional" and then they'll just throw down the gauntlet with deadlines for when they'll force the change, similar to Facebook UI)
That's my beef with Windows 8. I'm using it at work right now to get familiar with it and to troubleshoot it when eventually a few dumb clients switch to it and start to break it, it isn't a bad OS. It's functional enough I suppose, using it on a desktop monitor that is touch screen compatible isn't too bad, and I'm actually kind of enjoying it now that I know how to navigate it. The thing I hate about it, is what it represents. It represents a massive encroachment to digital privacy that is looming on the horizon, something that at the risk of being dramatic, I think could be the biggest crisis for the average person in the first or second world in my lifetime.
So to make a short story long, the online world is slowly closing a vice on our privacy and mobility. Integrating social programs more and more into the framework of our electronics, urging us more and more to register if we haven't already, and proceeding to share more and more of your information, whether you like it or not, with others without your consent.
I believe this is a looming crisis, and something people need to think about. The noose of our digital world tightening worries me. How long until the mainline OS out there requires you to have an account to install or use it? How long until that account must be tied to your social media? How long until that social media shares your information about sites you go on, games you play, and people you talk to? How long until places like Linked In, which are for professional use, blend seamlessly with your personal life on places like Facebook, and you are thus judged for it by your current employer, or by prospective employers? How long until having a smartphone means having this account, and further linking you, between your phone and your machine? How many mergers are we away from the possibility of such a horrible thing?
How long until all of our lives are an open book? And is there anyone who actually wants this?
edited 24th Nov '12 10:01:09 PM by Barkey