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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#19976: Aug 23rd 2014 at 10:05:16 PM

Now I need to question whether I want to spend 300 dollars on t-shirts for myself.

For starters I want to get these three shirts, the Bulba for myself and the other two as 21st presents for my friends who are twins, because the three of us have a different favourite Kanto starter, plus this Dratini line shirt (favourite line) and then I found a sweet Vegeta shirt, some awesome Bleach shirts, and finally four really sweet Digimon shirts.

This is after cutting out five other shirts, and my total still comes to 318.24 AUD. Shit. I could always buy some now and others later, but then I won't get free shipping.

edited 23rd Aug '14 10:15:02 PM by Saiga

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#19977: Aug 23rd 2014 at 10:24:16 PM

I would like to point out that the first post of page 800 is about shirts.

[up] I say you buy half of them now and the rest later when you have more money.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Ironypus from Australia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#19978: Aug 23rd 2014 at 10:40:45 PM

No Saiga, buying anime shirts leads to you singing to yourself while on the train wearing the fourth Hokage's coat, I've seen it myself!

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#19979: Aug 23rd 2014 at 10:43:00 PM

Don't you mean you've done it yourself?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Ironypus from Australia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#19980: Aug 23rd 2014 at 10:56:09 PM

Oh no, I'd never sing out loud, I'm terrible at it.

Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#19981: Aug 23rd 2014 at 11:25:10 PM

I have the money, it's just whether I want to spend that much at all... if I was going to, I'd just spend it now.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#19982: Aug 24th 2014 at 5:09:59 PM

I just staryed to seriously build muscles. Why?

To attract ladies? Nah.

To do better in wrestling? Well, yes, but not the main thing.

So I can pull off Kamina cosplay well? Hell yes.

Oh, and guess who has two thumbs and have internet connection again. This guy.

Oh, and I got new housemates. Pretty girls, who are pretty favorabe towards me, at that. This is going to be something, all right.

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#19983: Aug 25th 2014 at 8:29:41 AM

Tried watching the first episode of the new series of Doctor Who... got fed up with it in like 15 minutes. I took lot of shit from this franchise, but I'm not going to just take shit like that.

Ironypus from Australia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#19984: Aug 25th 2014 at 8:46:46 AM

The new episode wasn't great was it? Peter Capaldi's a fine choice, but the writing's gone downhill. The lizard lady, her wife and Strax are all overdone, too much quirk. Hopefully it gets better.

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#19985: Aug 25th 2014 at 8:51:41 AM

What pissed me off was how obvious they were in attacking the fanbase "If you don't like the new doctor, fuck you, you aren't a true fan!". I came in with basically no opinion on the new guy but this really annoyed me.

Ironypus from Australia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#19986: Aug 25th 2014 at 8:56:57 AM

Huh, yeah I guess there was a whole monologue you could take as that. I just thought it was lizard lady being retarded on purpose to guilt trip Clara into having some character development outside of special snowflake.

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#19987: Aug 25th 2014 at 8:59:49 AM

Clara reaction doesn't make any sense either. She seen Doctor entire life, she knows he regenerates, she seen him as an old guy, so why is she shocked now? She was clearly used as a stand-in for the portion of the fanbase not pleased with the casting choice for the new Doctor.

Ironypus from Australia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#19988: Aug 25th 2014 at 9:02:30 AM

I imagine it'd have been pretty easy to shelve John Hurt as being 'not the same person' whereas having your friend turn into 'someone else' in front of you would be distressing.

Now that you point it out though, wow, I can't stop seeing it.

edited 25th Aug '14 9:02:49 AM by Ironypus

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#19989: Aug 25th 2014 at 3:50:36 PM

I absolutely abhor it when, in a fantasy action series, the villain is more than strong enough to just one-shot the hero...but he acts all too arrogant or/and act stupid, allowing the hero to win.

For fuck's sake, I would like a villain who gives his absolute best and fullest effort to finish off the hero as soon as the opportunity arises. That's the thing I really liked about Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Part 2. If I remember correctly, no villain from Part 2 ever lost because of underestimating the hero.

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
Ironypus from Australia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#19990: Aug 25th 2014 at 5:50:31 PM

Karskarskarskarskarskars400iqletsflyintothisveryobvioustrapfuckyouimtheperfectbeingkars

Crinias from The Bleak Academy Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#19991: Aug 25th 2014 at 6:05:34 PM

"I have very narrowly defeated the only people who could possibly deduce my true identity. Now all I need to do is destroy them and all the evidence before their friends arrive, and I can sleep easy tonigh- wait, is that kid's sock inside-out? Dammit, I can't stand that sort of thing, I guess I'll have to fix it before killing him."

More seriously, I'd say villains being defeated by their own arrogance or flaws can be very satisfying if well-executed. Psychological problems are more acceptable, IMO, as well as qualities that are as much flaws as they are advantages.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#19992: Aug 25th 2014 at 6:38:04 PM

@Irony - Are you talking about him being launched off of Earth? If so, let's be fair to him, he could have not seen that coming; the narration explicitly states that Joseph wasn't consciously doing it.

@Crini - I'm guessing you are talking about Diavolo? I...honestly don't remember/understand most things when it comes to that guy and especially his Stand. His eventual fate via Gold Experience Requiem was, at least to me, one of the most comprehensible things that happened in the Part.

Seriously, throughout most of Part 5, I was left "Wha....?" Too darn complex, man.

As for the villains being defeated by their own flaws and whatnot, honestly, while I know the potential, I haven't seen many cases where that's actually made good use of. In anime/manga, where I see the whole issue of Bond Villain Stupidity the most frequently, the only case where that's pulled off really well is Death Note, and that isn't even really a fighting series.

Also, I think a villain who isn't very strong, perhaps even weaker than the hero, but does everything he can, be it clever tactics, unconventional thinking, and sheer determination that would even outmatch that of hero, would make a villain that I would take more seriously. I guess it's YMMV.

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#19993: Aug 25th 2014 at 6:55:39 PM

a villain who isn't very strong, perhaps even weaker than the hero, but does everything he can, be it clever tactics, unconventional thinking, and sheer determination
So a villain that works like a hero, basically?

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#19994: Aug 25th 2014 at 6:56:39 PM

Pretty much, yeah.

Then again, considering how so many main character nowadays just have their uber-powerful powers just handed to them without proportionate effort...

edited 25th Aug '14 6:57:25 PM by dRoy

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
Crinias from The Bleak Academy Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#19995: Aug 25th 2014 at 7:00:22 PM

[up]x3 Nah, I'm talking about Kira. That sequence I mentioned is actually one of my favorite parts of DIU, it's pure gold. Kira is precisely the sort of character that would do something like that, so I found it forgivable.

edited 25th Aug '14 7:00:32 PM by Crinias

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#19996: Aug 25th 2014 at 7:02:33 PM

True that.

Then again, Kira is pretty much the best villain in the entire series (at least in my opinion). I think it had a lot to do with how much insight we get to see about his character.

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
Ironypus from Australia Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#19997: Aug 25th 2014 at 7:32:12 PM

No, I'm talking about him following Joseph anywhere. He could have just hung around and killed all Joseph's friends while the guy was trying to lure him away. If he did that Joseph would have had to come back anyway, just kill him then. There was nothing to be gained by following him, 400 IQ and Kars chooses the least optimal decision.

Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#19998: Aug 25th 2014 at 7:49:54 PM

The interesting thing about Kira is how much he has to work for his victories. Like, he never stops being a threat, but he also almost gets killed by a housecat, and he spends the majority of his introductory arc in a state of panic. The guy's almost an underdog.

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Mrsunshinesprinkles Forever Gorgeous from Somewhere, crying Since: Jan, 2012
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#19999: Aug 26th 2014 at 12:37:59 AM

[up]yep. Still, We can't forget that he did live up to his claims. Things that should have backfired on Kira end up working in his favor, thanks to to combination of cunning and lots of luck, so his death couldn't fit him any better. The man who "had luck was on his side" getting hit by an ambulance sent to help him.

edited 26th Aug '14 12:40:04 AM by Mrsunshinesprinkles

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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#20000: Aug 26th 2014 at 1:12:01 AM

@d Roy I actually thought you were being faceticious. All of Part 2's villains lost that way.


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