In the past such distinction didn't even exist. If something was published it was a fair game to use. It's only recently that people realized that they could make money by treating stories as "property".
edited 17th Mar '14 6:21:56 AM by Shlugo_the_great
Yeah, that's why for millenia the writers had to depend on patrons.
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.Fanfic apologists sounds ridiculous, it's technically a valid form of writing as any, the main reason I can think of that it's treated with such disdain is that it's easy to do which draws in really unskilled work from silly teenagers and then propagates its stagnating badness like a meme which helps spawn fandoms; the most terrifying of all digimon. Plus you can't make money off of it since it's someone else's property which is something our capitalistic culture helps to encourage disdain.
It's something that your sum of experience automatically classes as Low Status. Mostly because most of it's shit; see Maximum Paradise Driver and Shingeki No Lesbian Horses for further details.
edited 17th Mar '14 7:01:54 AM by Ironypus
Seriously, fanfic is a fun activity. That's makes it a legitimate hobby, no need to fabricate wild, ignorant apologies.
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.Pretty much, it's never going to get as much positive recognition as legally published literature because it's sort of leeching off someone else's creative property. Nobody likes leeches, but at the end of the day it's fairly harmless, causing only abject embarrassment when you look back at what you've written years earlier. Or pride, if you wrote something actually good, or a troll fic that got famous.
And the best of all: writing a fanfic that is better than canon.
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.Yeah, depends on where the bar's set. Write something better than Naruto, well done kiddo. Write something better than Harry Potter, it's a shame you used someone else's stuff or you could have made a lot of money.
Fanfiction is a legitimate for of literature, as we established using other people work as a basis from yours is as old as storytelling itself and it hasn't become any less legitimate just because the economic model changed.
Sure most of Fanfiction is really bad, but that's the tradeoff forth low entry barriers.
Honestly Fanfiction is one of the best things that happened to through art of storytelling in our era.
"Anything that gets people creating any new content is worthwhile," says Ironypus, impressed with his platitude and not taking into account things like torture or bigotry.
@Shlugo - Fair points.
@Irony - Yeah, true that.
I must admit that some of my original ideas started off as a fanfic.This used to be a MLP fanfic, to start with.
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.Roy, are you one of those people that writes original stories but uses the names of characters from established franchises and tries to pass it off as Fanfiction because otherwise nobody would read it?
Not really. I like making up names. When I do borrow names, I usually do it from classical works or real life figures.
Also, some works, like MLP, have retarded names, so...
edited 17th Mar '14 7:35:36 AM by dRoy
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.Change of a topic.
By God, this is HOT. And this is (probably) SFW, at that.◊
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.They look really young, brah.
The sad, REAL American dichotomyRoy likes his women like he likes his whiskey. 12 years old, and mixed up with coke.
Man, Shlugo, you are so wrong. I hate whiskey. It tastes too strong. Or was that a scotch...? Anyhow, rum and coke is my favorite.
Has anyone here watched Love Live? I watched the first episode a while ago, and wow, everybody has identical faces. I know Only Six Faces is common these days, but man, that was just bad.
edited 17th Mar '14 1:44:38 PM by dRoy
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.Was that gif from Wake Up Girls?
Correct. It's like The Idolmaster, only more depressing, less colorful, and low budget.
Finished Leverage season 3. It was awesome.
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.Random thought.
People call Man vs Wild fake. True. But that has as much merit as calling professional wrestling fake; even if it is staged, all the stunts that they pull, like suplex and piledriver for wrestling, eating grubs and killing crocodile and other dangerous animals, are still insane.
Kinda relevant:
Happy meal time, according to nationality.◊
edited 18th Mar '14 8:54:54 AM by dRoy
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.I was told that a survey was done and women find it attractive when Brad Pitt eats. But not when he finishes food (and you can only finish food on so many takes), so you'll see him throwing away the last bites, too.
Bear Grylls eats only the freshest food. I wonder if he washed that down with a nice glass of warm piss.
The sad, REAL American dichotomyWhatever he eats it with, it can't be worse than food at his home country.
Apparently UK has a stereotype of having very bad foods.
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.Like Blood Sausage, or Spotted Dick.
Okay, wow.
So there are four core members of Man Vs Wild, including Bear himself. ALL of them are from both SASnote and SBS, British special forces unit.
That's right; if they really go out of their mind, they could turn the damn show into Modern Warfare.
Well, not really, obviously, but you get my joke.
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.Apparently Putin likes his pose kawaii.
Of course, that's obviously not why he's doing that pose. His handsign clearly describes satan.
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
Also, most of the stories writers like Shakespeare, Dante, and Goethe used are mythology, history, and other stories that were over centuries old. It isn't a fanfiction if you are using public domain property.
So yeah, it's a load of bull fabricated by fanfic apologists.
In another topic, I kind of want to see a romance story that centers around a love triangle, one guy and two girl. that starts off with two girls trying to win over the guy's heart...then ends up falling in love with each other.
edited 17th Mar '14 6:02:30 AM by dRoy
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.