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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#2476: Jun 14th 2015 at 12:13:18 PM

Mekansm cannot heal those affected by a Mekansm within the past 25 seconds. Mekansm's CD is 65 seconds. Could a two or even three Mek lineup be viable?

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MetaSkipper the Prodigal from right behind you... Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
the Prodigal
#2477: Jun 14th 2015 at 2:24:56 PM

Usually not. If a fight is going on longer than twenty five seconds AFTER the first Mek is used, you're probably not five-on-five fighting, which is where Mek is most useful. Mek is also strongest as a midgame pushing powerspike, and tends to be a first major item. Having two fast Meks is simply too much wasted gold.

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.
Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#2478: Jun 14th 2015 at 3:36:41 PM

[up][up]No. Two is maybe possible, but extremely dodgy. Three is a flat-out terrible idea.

edited 14th Jun '15 3:37:10 PM by Pannic

Logique Spider Enthusiast from Petco Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Spider Enthusiast
#2479: Jun 15th 2015 at 9:45:21 AM

So, I just started playing Dota 2 again after 1 year of, well, not playing Dota. So far I'm enjoying it again, and I learned a couple of things:

1. I suck at positioning

2. You forget everything (except abilities and items) when you don't play for an year.

3. Dota is so much more punishing than LoL.

4. Dying is bad.

5. TPs are love, TPs are life.

So, does anyone want to help me get back in shape? My handle is Logique.

EDIT: Damn, I can't do markup.

EDIT2: Here's my dotabuff if anyone's interested.

edited 15th Jun '15 1:59:03 PM by Logique

MetaSkipper the Prodigal from right behind you... Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
the Prodigal
#2480: Jun 15th 2015 at 9:51:47 AM

Well, you'll have to be a wee bit more specific if you want our help.

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.
Logique Spider Enthusiast from Petco Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Spider Enthusiast
#2481: Jun 15th 2015 at 9:53:33 AM

[up] Well, I'm on phone and I accidentally pressed the send button, so now my post should make s little bit more sense tongue

Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#2482: Jun 15th 2015 at 10:33:51 AM

So, what are the stereotypes for each of the regions? What I've gathered from a casual reading of Reddit is that SEA is a cesspit of people going nuts and insulting each others' mothers, US East is full of people raging at each other, and Europe is where, like, the skilled people are.

Logique Spider Enthusiast from Petco Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Spider Enthusiast
#2483: Jun 15th 2015 at 12:21:24 PM

I mostly play on US West, and it's decent. Lot of people who don't speak English, but the people who do speak English are usually pretty nice. On the other hand, US East is more toxic than Chernobyl. I even have a lower winrate there.

Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#2484: Jun 15th 2015 at 1:06:52 PM

Yeah, I saw someone in a Reddit thread describe US West as being "laid back."

Strangely, I seem to have a much higher winrate in East (58.82%) than in West (42.86%).

edited 15th Jun '15 1:07:44 PM by Pannic

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#2485: Jun 15th 2015 at 2:05:20 PM

I used to consider gold loss on death to be a terrible system. Then I learned that you can buy items from the base shop anywhere on the map. Now, I consider it a good way to encourage ganks and to slightly punish players with a lot of gold lying around. Yes, just because of that one bit of information.

Of all the MOBAs I've played, Dota 2 feels the slowest paced and the one where it's easiest to survive a gank. Likely because you can't stack ridiculous spell damage like you can in LoL clones. In any case, I consider the relatively slow pace to be an advantage.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
MetaSkipper the Prodigal from right behind you... Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
the Prodigal
#2486: Jun 15th 2015 at 5:20:40 PM

Dota 2 actually has the hardest-to-survive ganks, because it is the most punishing if your spacing is off. Dota 2 also has the most ways of initiating unseen, by range or invisibility.

Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.
ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
.....
#2487: Jun 15th 2015 at 6:52:09 PM

Wow. So all this time, I've been playing in this 'cesspit'. I'm starting to wonder if me holding onto my sanity has been a miracle this way......

Has there been a place stereotyped as 'Really friendly zone'?

... No?

Eldrake Since: Oct, 2009
#2488: Jun 15th 2015 at 6:56:29 PM

From my experience, EU West tend to have drunk russians who demand that you speak russian. I guess that's a stereotype.

That said, there are good russians.

edited 15th Jun '15 7:01:55 PM by Eldrake

ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#2489: Jun 15th 2015 at 6:57:15 PM

As the saying goes, "Online, anonymity breeds contempt." Too many people turn into dicks the moment they go online, simply because of the anonymity granted. I mean, sure, there are still a lot of friendly people, but something as competitive as Dot A (or dare I say it, League) is bound to attract the dickish loudmouths, even in a laidback server like US West.

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#2490: Jun 15th 2015 at 7:36:43 PM

It's a game where a single bad teammate can cause four decent players to lose horribly, and where the winner can become obvious at fifteen minutes out of forty-five. It's like the genre was specifically designed to breed toxicity.

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ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
a
#2491: Jun 15th 2015 at 7:38:38 PM

[up] The reason I really only like playing in 5-stack queues, at least as far as ranked goes.

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
Elfhunter NO ONE SUSPECTS THE LAMP! from India Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
NO ONE SUSPECTS THE LAMP!
#2492: Jun 16th 2015 at 9:58:57 AM

@Logique: I feel ya. As I mentioned a few posts before yours, I've been away for 6 months and it's much the same for me (granted, I've been playing vs. bots but they're really poor substitutes). I tilted a lot in particular today.

@Pannic: SEA isn't quite THAT bad; yes, there are occasionally griefers, but otherwise they're mostly civil. The only other server I've played is EU West, where 2 out of 3 games had leavers when we started losing, so I'm never playing there again.

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ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
a
#2494: Jun 16th 2015 at 2:46:12 PM

PUDGE WARS COMING BACK BITCHES.

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stevebat Since: Nov, 2009
#2495: Jun 16th 2015 at 3:35:20 PM

Soon I can have Hero Line wars again. and there shall be much joy.

And my Elemental TD.

Apocalypse: Dirge Of Swans.
Logique Spider Enthusiast from Petco Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Spider Enthusiast
#2496: Jun 16th 2015 at 6:02:34 PM

[up][up][up][up] Yeah, I've just been mostly looking for people to play Dota with lately. I mean, if you want to party up with me, just send me a friend invite. My dotabuff/steam and stuff is above.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#2497: Jun 16th 2015 at 6:14:09 PM

I'm rather confused. Couldn't you already make custom games for Dota 2?

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Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
Geomancer
#2498: Jun 16th 2015 at 6:33:32 PM

You COULD, but that feature wasn't officially supported yet. You couldn't actually play them iirc.

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ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
.....
#2499: Jun 16th 2015 at 6:37:12 PM

I wish someone would take up and make a story campaign based on the DOTA lore.

Logique Spider Enthusiast from Petco Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Spider Enthusiast
#2500: Jun 16th 2015 at 6:38:16 PM

[up][up] You could play custom games, but you needed to download a separate client (aka the workshop tools). I remember playing a game of Pudge Wars like a year ago.


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