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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#10976: Oct 26th 2017 at 7:46:29 PM

Oh god what.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#10978: Oct 26th 2017 at 7:54:14 PM

I...I don't know how to react to this.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#10979: Oct 27th 2017 at 4:20:22 AM

Dr Wolf reveals a certain voice actor coming back for season 8.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#10980: Oct 27th 2017 at 9:25:03 AM

wild mass guess Starlight Glimmer will fight Tirek

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#10981: Oct 27th 2017 at 9:45:47 AM

And the other ponies will be somehow incapacitated.

Also, this is how Starlight will earn her wings.

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#10982: Oct 27th 2017 at 11:17:16 AM

You know, if the showrunners really wanted to officially give Starlight an Element of Harmony (like Empathy or whatever), "Shadow Play" would have been the ideal place to do it. Would have fit thematically—and they were already shaking up our understanding of the EOH by revealing their origins, so what's a seventh Element on top of that?

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#10983: Oct 27th 2017 at 11:18:14 AM

I know y'all are being sarcastic but I'd genuinely be really frustrated if she did beat Tirek.

Then again, somebody with her power would easily get taken down or power Tirek.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#10984: Oct 27th 2017 at 11:48:24 AM

To properly face Tirek you need someone with no magic or somekind of anti magic that he can't tap into

Like an Earthpony..

edited 27th Oct '17 11:48:42 AM by Ultimatum

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RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#10985: Oct 27th 2017 at 11:50:18 AM

That actually is a good idea. He can't suck out Pegasus or Earth pony magic without first stealing a heck of a lot of unicorn magic. Sending everyone but the unicorns to kick his ass would leave him screwed.

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#10986: Oct 27th 2017 at 11:50:54 AM

Earth ponies do have magic. Tirek had no problem draining them last time he appeared, and Rockhoof and Meadowlark both contributed their own magic to the Seed of Harmony.

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#10987: Oct 27th 2017 at 12:01:39 PM

[up]He did have a problem taking their magic, specifically how he needed to get to them last.

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edited 27th Oct '17 12:04:44 PM by God_of_Awesome

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#10988: Oct 27th 2017 at 12:01:44 PM

Do Griffins have magic?

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#10989: Oct 27th 2017 at 12:05:29 PM

Unconfirmed.

They do in my headcanon, they know magic weather kungfu,

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#10990: Oct 27th 2017 at 1:19:33 PM

I don't think it's ever stated that Tirek had to go after unicorns first. I mean, he did, but there's no way to tell whether he needed to or whether he just started with them because they were closer. There's no reason to think that sucking magic out of pegasi or earth ponies would be any harder than unicorns. Heck, it might be easier, since a unicorn might be able to actively resist due to being more familiar with using magic directly.

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#10991: Oct 27th 2017 at 1:23:17 PM

Princess Celestia: Tirek has stolen enough magic that he now has the strength to steal flight as well. Without Pegasi to control the weather, there will be no rain in Equestria. There is word he has gone after Earth ponies as well. Without their strength, they will not be able to tend the land.

It's not said that he requires unicorn magic to steal Earth Pony magic, but he definitely does to steal Pegasi magic, and the way it's phrased strongly implies the former.

edited 27th Oct '17 1:23:28 PM by RhymeBeat

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#10992: Oct 28th 2017 at 8:02:32 AM

Hmmmm. Now I'm wondering whether it's a question of pegasi magic being harder to steal, or whether it's just because their ability to fly makes them harder to get to.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#10993: Oct 28th 2017 at 8:29:16 PM

After that alicorn physical god talk a while back this trivia entry struck me funny. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Trivia/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E26ShadowPlayPart2

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#10994: Oct 28th 2017 at 9:43:32 PM

Where in the episode was that said? I don't recall hearing it.

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#10995: Oct 28th 2017 at 10:53:25 PM

The Pony of Shadows says it. Right at the start, when Twilight Beam Struggles him, he compliments her for being almost as powerful as Star Swirl.

edited 28th Oct '17 10:53:44 PM by TobiasDrake

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#10997: Oct 29th 2017 at 7:43:14 AM

Honestly, I'm willing to accept it. It makes sense given Celestia's consistently terrible performance in combat and Twilight's repeated failures at matching horns with Starlight. If being an alicorn doesn't actually confer any significant increase in power that couldn't just as easily be accomplished by being a talented and experienced unicorn, I feel like that solves more problems than it raises.

The only real issue I see is Tirek and, I mean this in the most impolite way possible, f*ck Tirek.

edited 29th Oct '17 7:44:47 AM by TobiasDrake

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#10998: Oct 29th 2017 at 10:33:20 AM

What is the issue with Tirek again?

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#10999: Oct 29th 2017 at 10:35:35 AM

He's;literally steals magic making him over powered

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#11000: Oct 29th 2017 at 11:40:26 AM

The issue for me or the issue he creates with the alicorn power question?

For me, the issue's that he's a bland Generic Doomsday Villain with no real personality or motivation beyond the Generic Evil Guy traits of laughing a lot, desiring evil things, and being condescending. His ultimate master plan is that he wants to eat all the magic so that he can become very tall and then stomp around breaking stuff For the Evulz.

Tirek is the lamest villain My Little Pony's ever had and part of the reason for why I consider "Twilight's Kingdom" to be dreadfully overrated. He's not the worst part of it, but he's up there.

For the alicorn powers, Tirek is the one thing undermining the idea that maybe being an alicorn just isn't that special of a power boost because the combined powers of the four alicorn princesses made Twilight roughly equal in power to Tirek after devouring the magic of, like, half of Equestria.

edited 29th Oct '17 11:41:10 AM by TobiasDrake

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