Bounty hunters of the apocalypse (reboot)

What's the difference between normal electricity and magic electricity? Pretty much just that; it's not actually electricity. Looks like electricity, moves (almost) as fast as electricity, and can similarly make muscles seize up when applied correctly, but still isn't actually electricity.

Being not actually electricity, it doesn't move through the high-potential to low-potential method; this means that while Energy's Q can miss, (But it's not likely to so long as he's actually aiming it, due to how fast it still shoots.) it also can't be disrupted by active power lines or other such man-made power sources. It would also straight up ignore anything normally non-conductive, so wearing a rubber suit wouldn't make one immune to Energy's magic.

On the flipside of being not actually electricity, it doesn't get carried through or amplified by conductive materials either, so shocking the end of a gun wouldn't necessarily do anything to the person holding it, nor would shocking water hit everything in it. He also can't power up any man-made electrical devices with it.

Also after thinking about it, you can disregard the thing I said before about his Q shooting through multiple things in the general direction he's shooting, including allies; it could shoot through multiple things, but only if they're lined up. Could also knock the cost back down to 3%.

Well that's a passive then.

Alright, that's pretty much everything for both of them. Take a look over it while I add in the minor details you asked me for.

Also, I most likely will throw in changes here and there, since these are early drafts. But I will always notify you when I do.

edited 16th Jan '14 10:36:26 PM by gameknight102xx

Well, they look alright now other than a few technical and wording problems.

Both of their sheets still refer to something akin to "mana", when their spells are supposed to run on stamina. (So by the way, doing stuff like running fast or any strenuous physical activity will drain them, the amount obviously depending on what it is.)

Energy's W still refers to the "stacks" from your original passive idea. His E doesn't specify the 2% for firing then 8% for shocking. His R still refers to turns. And if you did want him to have any kind of defensive spell, that hasn't been added yet it seems.

Flamist's Q still refers to turns. Her W seems to possibly be implying her original passive. Her E still states it as being an upkeep over time, when what I meant was a one time cast at 1% a foot that lasts for a minute, regardless of what happens after that. (Also, she could put up as many as she wants, so long as she has the stamina.) And her R still refers to turns.

And both of their detections are still worded to imply that they can detect angels or demons, (And also seems to imply that they can only detect powerful ones at that.) and that only what they separately detect can detect them, when they should both be able to detect both and vice versa.

So they are accepted, but I'd still like it if you could fix those at some point for myself or anyone cross referencing the sheets for whatever reason in the future.

EDIT: Oh, and if you wanted them both to have the prepared spell circles in their inventories, you must add that. I will not allow that to be retroactively added.

edited 18th Jan '14 12:53:39 AM by FirockFinion

I think I fixed up what you asked. Added a Charcoal Stick in their inventories, added "Incredibly Fast Sketcher" to their skills, and reworked Flamist's ultimate.

Also, no defensive skill for Energy. He has significantly longer range than Flamist, so he doesn't need it as much.

edited 26th Jan '14 10:40:47 PM by gameknight102xx

Flamist's E is still incorrectly worded, and doesn't specify that she has to do it by touch. (Indirect touch still works as I mention with like a stick or something, but she can't wave her hand at a spot several feet away and do it.) It still implies that it drains her over time where what I meant is she casts it and then it just lasts for a minute on its own. Also it still says she's limited to 2, which wouldn't make much sense the way I have magic work here.

Her new R is acceptable, but it's going to be weaker than her old one and still won't exclude allies.

Energy's Q still refers to the high-potential to low-potential aiming method, which I said it doesn't use since it's not real electricity.

As for them both being incredibly fast sketchers, it's still going to take at least 30 seconds per circle for their Rs. A five foot circle with intricate patterns that must be exact the whole way through is not something you can just sketch "incredibly fast".

(And their detections still kind of imply that they can only detect angels or demons respectively.)

Think I fixed everything now, I am fine with Flamist's new R being weaker.

Oh whoops, and Energy's E has the two costs inverted. (Says 2 for shocking, 8 for shooting, when I meant the other way around. I didn't mean for missing to be that much of a penalty.)

But yeah, they're pretty much good. Did you want to bring them in once the second arc starts? You'll still have to do something with Recon going out of play at that point.

Fixed that and added continued shocking and specified its range.

Also, likely a little after the end of the first arc, after which Recon'll probably get sent off to Idaho to scout there. Assault's probably my next character.

Alright, well using Assault is going to exclude using Flamist and Energy, or at least using them all at the same time, for so long as I'm going to limit you to two characters. Flamist and Energy may go together but I'm still counting them as two.

Oh, and as for the range thing, his Q would easily reach at least a hundred yards if not more; but the farther away the target the higher the possibility is of him missing. His E however, if anything, would have less range; like, a hundred feet. Him re-spending 8% to shock again is fine though, so long as the prongs are still in the target.

edited 27th Jan '14 3:35:08 PM by FirockFinion

Alright, fixed that, elaborated on his passive, and added "Immune to Electricity" on his abilities because apparently I didn't add it in before.

Also, exactly how poweful are Flamist's and Energy's ultimates? Need to add that in. And the range on Flamist's Q as well.

edited 28th Jan '14 12:41:16 PM by gameknight102xx

"it is immune at attempts to dampen or insulate it"

For record, it is immune to normal attempts to dampen it. Magical and cthulian physics fuckery dampening are both fair game.

"Immune to Electricity: Exactly what is sounds like. No amount of electricity can harm him, so try something else."

He shouldn't be immune to it, but resistant is fine.

@Ultimates: I already told you how powerful Energy's should be. Flamist's, now that you're going with the ranged version, would be about fifteen feet in diameter; it actually wouldn't create much of a shockwave or even do much to anything outside of that diameter, but all except the toughest targets inside would be pretty much screwed. (For appearance, imagine a big invisible ball filled entirely with fire.) It would usually leave a perfectly bowl-shaped and glassed crater.

Her Q she has to actually throw like a ball, though it has effectively no weight, so she could throw it pretty hard. Maximum range would be about fifty feet, but it would get weaker the farther it flew before hitting something, so effective range would be within thirty feet.

edited 28th Jan '14 7:40:56 PM by FirockFinion

I'll specify those and change it to resistant. Although the reason I said he's immune is because you gave it the thumbs-up about 4 posts after the sign-up sheet.

Hmm, I did. Well, I don't know, because at the time I hadn't fully decided what the difference between his electricity and normal electricity would be. After I had, it didn't seem quite as right for him to be completely immune to it.

Let's see, how to analogize... Flamist being immune to fire is okay because the difference between her fire and normal fire is like the difference between two types of salt. They're different in minor details and in some specific applications they get very different results, but they're still similar enough that one could stand in for the other otherwise. (Because really, her magical fire is less made of magic than it is fire that's simply being fueled by magic.)

Energy's magic electricity to normal electricity on the other hand is like the difference between salt and sugar. They look about same and they pour about the same way out of a bag, but if you tried to use one as a stand-in for the other the result would usually fail. (Unlike Flamist's fire, his magical electricity is made of magic. Hence why it actually functions so differently.)

Now bear in mind, when I said resistant to electricity, I meant that a standard tazer or him shoving a metal object into a power socket would probably hurt about the same as stabbing him with a needle at worst, or just kind of tickle/tingle. But if he decided to screw around with a powerful electric generator directly, he could seriously get hurt. (And against magical electricity, though he'll take less damage than a normal person, he'll still take some damage even from standard attacks.)

Anyway, I pretty much need to get going for tonight after having hung out with friends, but decided to jump in to take care of this before I went.

edited 29th Jan '14 5:07:38 AM by FirockFinion