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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1401: Mar 26th 2013 at 6:47:51 PM

[up] That's why I DDR. Because no matter how good it is for me I can't associate it with actually being anything other than a game.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#1402: Mar 26th 2013 at 6:58:21 PM

DDR is a good idea.

Btw, I'm skeptical about the studies that shows active video games do not work as exercise, because their explanation is very dodgy (ok, so people who plays DDR will think that they did exercise for the day and not take part in activities later on, resulting in an overall reduction of exercise. That does not explain why this happens specifically for games like DDR and not activities where you go outside).

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1403: Mar 26th 2013 at 7:28:15 PM

Especially when there are now a lot of games that aren't any different than an aerobics video. They're just more interactive so you get feedback which can encourage you.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Cephalopod Lothario
#1404: Mar 26th 2013 at 7:30:00 PM

[up][up] Also, they likely assist people who otherwise wouldn't do ANYTHING to do stuff.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1405: Mar 26th 2013 at 7:31:17 PM

And there are studies that show they are very good for physical therapy and encouraging people to start exercising.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#1406: Mar 26th 2013 at 7:38:56 PM

I cvan kind of see their logic though. At least in my case, when I exercise I'm constantrly hoping it'll soon be over so I can resume my normal activities.

probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#1407: Mar 26th 2013 at 8:07:34 PM

If you've got the room, I rec Xbox's Kinect the most. Sadly, our living room is not large enough to really make use of Kinect.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#1408: Mar 26th 2013 at 9:12:58 PM

I posted a comment about high fructose corn syrup in the Troper Fitness Thread. I'm linking my post because it's only marginally pertinent to the discussion here.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=0zmgsg9nv3jwj0f9hyrorpxp&page=30#739

IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#1409: Mar 26th 2013 at 9:23:00 PM

[up][up][up] The key word to that is "exercising". The problem is they give no reason as to why physical exertion through video games like DDR would give people such an idea while other forms of exercise do not. When you mention "exercise" you do not just think games like DDR right?

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#1410: Mar 26th 2013 at 9:29:46 PM

[up]

what I meant is. Much like they say people play DDR and then are not active otherwise. here is my average day

1: get up,. walk across campus to and from classes.

2: come home to dorm. exercise while watching a movie or playing a videogame.

3: sit the rest of the night unless something comes up to get up for.

In short. To a degree, I can sometimes see the exercise as something to be gotten through, not sometyhing to supplement with other active stuff afterwards

IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#1411: Mar 26th 2013 at 9:32:36 PM

That would more be due to the mindset of the person, as opposed to the "video game exercise do not work" conclusion that they made.

Still, advice: stop thinking of exercise as "something to get through" but as something you goof around and have fun.

probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#1412: Mar 26th 2013 at 9:46:29 PM

A sedentary lifestyle imo is okay IF you eat well and of course eat an amount that doesn't exceed your sedentary caloric requirements.

The problem is sedentary people who eat too much (and eat too much junk).

I don't know much about bulimics and bulimia, but even I've considered that perhaps people who can't help but eat too much may as well puke out what they've just ate before they end up with diabetes.

Of course, I'm assuming atm that bulimia is less worse of a condition than diabetes.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#1413: Mar 26th 2013 at 9:52:05 PM

[up] No. Bulimia is a mental disorder that, if left untreated, can and will result in death or severe medical problems due to lack of nutrients. It's not a solution.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#1414: Mar 26th 2013 at 9:56:55 PM

[up] Not saying it's a solution. Just a (somewhat) less harmful condition than diabetes (perhaps) ???

Of course, just not eating / controlled eating / eating well is the best solution. With exercise though I'd rec exercise only after a good diet can be enforced.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1415: Mar 27th 2013 at 7:04:38 AM

No. Bulima will kill you faster and more reliably than diabetes. One of these diseases can be managed reliably in a low cost way. Bulima is a faster, nastier, and costlier death.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
NCC - 1701
#1416: Mar 27th 2013 at 7:18:50 AM

I knew bulimia was a problem but damn.

It was an honor
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1417: Mar 27th 2013 at 7:59:43 AM

Well, Bulemia causes you to lose your teeth, your oesophagus erodes, and then you haemorrhage internally and then even if they manage to stop that it's very hard to recover from. It's a nasty death.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#1418: Mar 27th 2013 at 8:29:58 AM

Yeah. if you stay on your medication, get at least 30 minutes to an hour of exercise a day, and drop some pounds, Diabetes patients can easily live pretty much just as long as anyone else with minor complications. The severe complications occur when you dont get regular checkups and completely ignore regular intake of medication or just downright dont even bother eating even halfway sensibly. (whjich is why a lot of poor people die of diabetes)

(I had a diabetic professor who died recently..but the man was nearing his 80's so the erratuic heart behavior that killed him could just as easaily have been old age as it was diabetes, for example)

Bullimia, on the other hand, will kill you in less than a few months if you dont get help immediately.

edited 27th Mar '13 8:30:57 AM by Midgetsnowman

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#1419: Mar 28th 2013 at 8:13:57 PM

Aprilla: There is another aspect. The saturation of food, food additives, flavourings, sauces, and seasonings with HFCS only compounds the issue. It is in a lot of food items.

Who watches the watchmen?
probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#1420: Mar 28th 2013 at 8:36:01 PM

(sighs) Even (too much) salt can kill. I did try just sticking with (ready to eat) canned fish for my proteins. But there's too much salt.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#1421: Mar 28th 2013 at 8:39:21 PM

We were discussing that in the Fitness Tread. It's crazy how you can OD on pretty much anything.

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#1422: Mar 28th 2013 at 8:50:23 PM

As a friend of mine said, it's best to eat in moderation.

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
NCC - 1701
IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#1424: Mar 29th 2013 at 1:22:08 AM

"Everything is poison. It is the dose that determines whether it kills you or not." - someone way smarter than me.

probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#1425: Mar 29th 2013 at 4:03:17 AM

There's also research that too much (for example) Vitamin C ain't good, but for now, it's (too much) fat, salt and sugar that are the biggest problems, food-wise.

Especially since junk food companies like to use all three together.

Though atm, I'm feeling way more annoyed by the companies that insist that their junk food is "healthy". Cause not only is it false advertising, people tend to eat more of something they "think" is healthy.

Blah.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.

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