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Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#7526: Feb 11th 2016 at 11:25:16 AM

In Soviet Zendikar, plane eats eldrazi!

(Even if that's not what ends up happening.)

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#7527: Feb 11th 2016 at 9:52:07 PM

Sudden plot twist idea for Shadows over Innistrad:

wild mass guess Nahiri is the flip Planeswalker of the block, turns out she was sealed not in the Helvault, but instead inside the 'Neglected Heirloom' mentioned on the double-side card from the spoilers. When that flips over - BOOM! - Nahiri escapes.

ImperialSunlight A Practical Observer from Tolaria West Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
A Practical Observer
#7528: Feb 11th 2016 at 11:34:02 PM

But what is the neglected heirloom? Sorin's sword, maybe? The weird red jewel (?) thing in his chest? A great mystery indeed...

''The eternal question of reality, it still stands today.''
TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#7529: Feb 11th 2016 at 11:37:15 PM

I doubt it's anything that's part of Sorin's normal outfit, since that would make it far more difficult for it to be neglected. tongue

ImperialSunlight A Practical Observer from Tolaria West Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
A Practical Observer
#7530: Feb 12th 2016 at 10:05:56 AM

True enough, Sorin does get some good use out of his sword.

''The eternal question of reality, it still stands today.''
TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#7532: Feb 15th 2016 at 8:49:29 AM

"The land promises nothing and keeps that promise." ~Oracle en-Vec

<.< I love using these releases like refresher courses. Do I remember what X is on this card? What about that one?

Oracle en-Vec...the name follows the distinctive pattern of naming conventions from...uh...Rath! It's Rath. "il-Vec" means you support the Phyrexian rulership, "en-Vec" identifies you as a rebel. So the Oracle must be a village oracle from the rebel forces arrayed against Phyrexia on Rath prior to the plane's forced merger with Dominaria!

The Oracle en-Vec was a prophet on Rath and the spiritual leader of the Vec tribe. While traveling to meet with Eladamri, she encountered Gerrard Capashen, whom she believed to be the prophesied Korvecdal. Along with Eladamri and his elves, she rallied the Rathi Tribes in an attempt to overthrow Volrath while Gerrard and the Weatherlight crew infiltrated the Stronghold. However, the uprising was unsuccessful and was called off when Weatherlight fled.

The Oracle later met again with Eladamri, declaring that he was the real Korvecdal. However, she predicted that he would have to leave his people for another world before he could become the Uniter. This prophecy came true as Eladamri was transported to Dominaria and became a leader in the Coalition, rejoining his people after the Rathi Overlay.

Although only one oracle is seen during the storyline, it is suggested there are others within the Vec tribe, which is why the Oracle en-Vec card is not legendary.

~.~ So I correctly deduced the position, but forgot all about the Korvecdal and the oracle's important role in the plot. I was close!

edited 15th Feb '16 8:50:11 AM by TobiasDrake

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Lightblade The Shrouded Knight from Philadelphia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
The Shrouded Knight
#7533: Feb 15th 2016 at 9:55:31 AM

Decklists for Duel Decks: Blessed vs. Cursed

The Living Guildpact rules that coffee is an acceptable substitution for rest as specified in subsection … whatever.
disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#7534: Feb 15th 2016 at 10:06:24 AM

Oh boy, Eternal Masters!

My wallet's gonna love that...

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#7535: Feb 15th 2016 at 10:36:13 AM

I understand on some level why they're doing it this way, but something about doing 'Eternal Masters' while the Reserved List is still in effect feels a little hollow.

Just what would it take for them to do away with the Reserved List? Someone with too much time and money on their hands buying up all the copies of a given card on the reserve list and effectively removing it from use unless Wizards breaks their no-reprint policy?

Because I'd be lying if I said I hadn't amusingly imagined the idea of, if I had more money than I knew what to do with, I'd be half tempted to try just that.

edited 15th Feb '16 10:37:33 AM by TheSpaceJawa

MrShine Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#7536: Feb 15th 2016 at 10:56:30 AM

My assumption is that many reserved list cards are owned by former Wizards employees, and that is the secret constituency keeping the list alive.

Elfive Since: May, 2009
#7537: Feb 15th 2016 at 10:56:53 AM

Maybe if every new player made a pact to just pretend every card on the reserve list doesn't exist. You can't get your hands on the damn things anyway.

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#7538: Feb 15th 2016 at 10:59:36 AM

For those cards to be considered playable by R&D.

The Reserved List isn't, "These cards specifically can't be reprinted." It's, "Whatever this card does, NEVER AGAIN."

It's not just that you can't reprint Black Lotus specifically. You can't make a card that's identical to Black Lotus either. It's the effect of Black Lotus, what it does to the game, that is banned forever - not the existence of a card named Black Lotus.

Sometimes it's because the effect is utterly ridiculous like Chaos Orb or City in a Bottle. Sometimes it's just because the card is insanely overpowered, like Ancestral Recall. Whatever the reason, R&D doesn't want it to ever touch the game's balance again, and the only reason it would be considered for removal from the Reserved List is if Wizards decided that the card could provide a positive effect to the game environment.

edited 15th Feb '16 11:02:02 AM by TobiasDrake

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MrShine Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#7539: Feb 15th 2016 at 11:03:03 AM

No, you're very incorrect. It is a specific list of cards they cannot reprint. Power level was not a consideration.

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#7540: Feb 15th 2016 at 11:04:21 AM

From the horse's mouth:

Reserved cards will never be printed again in a functionally identical form. A card is considered functionally identical to another card if it has the same card type, subtypes, abilities, mana cost, power, and toughness. No cards will be added to the reserved list in the future. No cards from the Mercadian Masques set and later sets will be reserved. In consideration of past commitments, however, no cards will be removed from this list. The exclusion of any particular card from the reserved list doesn't indicate that there are any plans to reprint that card.

edited 15th Feb '16 11:04:45 AM by TobiasDrake

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MrShine Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#7541: Feb 15th 2016 at 11:04:52 AM

Yes, but that is not what you said.

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#7542: Feb 15th 2016 at 11:05:03 AM

It gets especially silly when you realize that - if I'm not mistaken - there's at least one card on the list that is a white 2/2 flying bird on the reserved list.

Which means that Wizards can never again print a white 2/2 flying bird.

Not that have any belief that anyone is asking for them to print a new card like that, but I think it serves to underscore just how ridiculous the whole thing is as it stands.

edited 15th Feb '16 11:06:21 AM by TheSpaceJawa

CountDorku Since: Jan, 2001
#7543: Feb 15th 2016 at 11:06:21 AM

MrShine is correct. It was created to preserve the value of older cards, not to balance the game.

For example:

  • Thunder Spirit: on the reserve list.
  • Sky Spirit: not on the reserve list, because it's UW rather than monowhite.
  • Voiceless Spirit: not on the reserve list, because it's got a slightly different mana cost and one point lower toughness.

LeChuck4 Since: Feb, 2010
#7544: Feb 15th 2016 at 11:07:41 AM

[up]This. The reserve List was made specifically as a promise from Wizards to the Collectors back when the game was still young. "We won't reprint these particular cards ever again so you guys don't have to worry about the price of them dropping due to higher availability".

And that is the very reason for why they have been so adamant about not abolishing it, because doing so would break said promise and damage their integrity with a non-insignificant portion of the playerbase.

edited 15th Feb '16 11:08:36 AM by LeChuck4

Elfive Since: May, 2009
#7545: Feb 15th 2016 at 11:31:13 AM

Question: How many reserved list cards are now utterly obsolete due to a Strictly Better version being printed?

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#7546: Feb 15th 2016 at 11:35:10 AM

Probably quite a few. But for every white 2/2 bird, there's probably a Tolarian Academy.

MrShine Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#7547: Feb 15th 2016 at 12:37:11 PM

How could you hope to match the awesome power of Farmstead?

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#7548: Feb 15th 2016 at 1:51:12 PM

Another tidbit that I'm going to copy+paste from what I already wrote out elsewhere:

"Another thing of note - I hope that, assuming this is successful (because it's hard to imagine it not, all other things aside), this doesn't wind up turning the summer supplemental set into a yearly "Modern/Eternal Masters Reprint set" release. Commander, as much as I love it, has already taken over the fall supplemental set release that was originally intended to be a yearly multiplayer release, and if I'm not mistaken this will mean that for the past four years we've seen Modern Masters I/Conspiracy/Modern Masters II/Eternal Masters, and I could easily see them doing Modern Masters III next year and Eternal Masters II the year after that for a MM/EM/MM/EM schedule with no room for any fun, goofy sets like Conspiracy or even the possibility of finding room for another Un set in future summer releases should they decide to give that another shot."

"Unless they wind up finding space somehow for another yearly release schedule slot specifically for unconventional stuff and turn the summer supplemental release set into the year "X Masters" reprint set release, though there's honestly only so much space for yearly releases."

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#7549: Feb 15th 2016 at 2:03:17 PM

Which release slot did Conspiracy sit in?

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#7550: Feb 15th 2016 at 2:18:15 PM

I thought it sat in the spring/summer release slot that Modern Masters used last year and Eternal Masters is using this year.

If I'm wrong on that it would probably do away with that particular worry about this and future MM releases.


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