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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
#1: Jul 2nd 2012 at 11:54:53 AM

Now that M13 has been revealed, let Return to Ravnica consume this thread. Bolas commands it!

Here there be unmarked spoilers.

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Blackmoon Your Worth is 50 Yen! from the Blind Eternities Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Halfway to Pon Farr
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#2: Jul 2nd 2012 at 12:04:18 PM

BOY I SURE DO HOPE NICOL BOLAS DIES IN RTR

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LeChuck4 Since: Feb, 2010
#3: Jul 2nd 2012 at 12:06:24 PM

I am still heavily speculating that we will see Slivers taking over Ravnica in RTR.

Idler20 Rabbit Season Since: Oct, 2010
Rabbit Season
#4: Jul 2nd 2012 at 12:10:31 PM

My current speculation is that the plane after Return block will be Shandalar. It's a much-beloved plane due to its role in the DOTP series but has never been formally visited. Plus, the only M13 legend who isn't from somewhere we've already been is from Shandalar.

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Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
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#5: Jul 2nd 2012 at 12:11:36 PM

But M13 is unreleased...

I guess it is.
Lovecrafter <3 from Belgium Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
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#6: Jul 2nd 2012 at 12:12:01 PM

I hope we'll see something different than shocklands.

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Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
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#8: Jul 2nd 2012 at 12:16:31 PM

@Lovecrafter: Why would you not want them? They're good for Standard and reprinting them helps make Modern affordable.

Though all in all there's little point in trying to actually discuss RTR at this point since we've got nothing revealed about it. Speculation isn't really spoilers anyway.

edited 2nd Jul '12 12:17:14 PM by Nyktos

I guess it is.
Lovecrafter <3 from Belgium Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
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#9: Jul 2nd 2012 at 12:21:40 PM

Mostly because that's all that RTR seems to be about for most players. I agree that keeping things affordable is a good cause (although I'm not sure the impact would be that great), but I'd rather see those slots used for something new and exciting (although that's obviously a best-case scenario).

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Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
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#10: Jul 2nd 2012 at 1:04:04 PM

Dual lands are rarely new and exciting.

And of course it's all RTR is about right now: we have no idea what else is in it yet!

I guess it is.
Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#11: Jul 2nd 2012 at 2:41:02 PM

We knoow there's Jace, probably being a douche, and maybe Niv.

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Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
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#12: Jul 2nd 2012 at 2:43:45 PM

Well, yeah, but we don't know anything about them cardwise...or even flavourwise for that matter, really.

I still stand by my theory that Jarad will get a card, and that he and the new Niv will be the foil mythics in Izzet vs. Golgari.

I guess it is.
Idler20 Rabbit Season Since: Oct, 2010
Rabbit Season
#13: Jul 2nd 2012 at 2:44:12 PM

[up][up] And gold cards. Which is always fun.

edited 2nd Jul '12 2:44:25 PM by Idler20

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Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#14: Jul 2nd 2012 at 4:54:01 PM

I would like a game of EDH on Cockatrice. Our little secret. [lol]

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Icezera GOD of Gundam from Space Since: Sep, 2010
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#15: Jul 2nd 2012 at 6:23:54 PM

I predict more dual colored planeswalkers.

Fits with Ravnica and its significance with the planeswalkers and its guilds

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disruptorfe404 from New Zealand Since: Sep, 2011
#16: Jul 2nd 2012 at 6:32:58 PM

I predict massive paradigm shift, with the guilds merged in enemy-wedge combinations.

Because I want an enemy-wedge block.

wearingglasses His work is never done. Since: Jan, 2001
His work is never done.
#17: Jul 2nd 2012 at 6:44:25 PM

Could someone refresh me on the current state of affairs in Ravnica? I remember that Jace and Nissa traveled there once, Jace hung out with Niv and Nissa had a panic attack of some sort.

Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
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#18: Jul 2nd 2012 at 7:01:45 PM

Jace more or less lives there at the moment, running the cell of the former Infinite Consortium.

The guilds don't exist anymore, but there are various successor organizations with varying degrees of corruptitude. Overall it's likely better than it was under guild rule.

Other 'walkers who have been sighted on Ravnica include Gideon, Liliana, and Tezzeret.

I guess it is.
Roboyoshi15 Wexnard the Brave Since: Apr, 2012
Wexnard the Brave
#19: Jul 2nd 2012 at 8:26:38 PM

We're not gonna get ANOTHER Liliana card are we? I am looking forward to Gideon though. You think he's going to be a meatshield again?

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Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#20: Jul 2nd 2012 at 8:33:39 PM

Gideon is on Zendikar.

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
LeChuck4 Since: Feb, 2010
#21: Jul 2nd 2012 at 8:34:28 PM

You know that Planeswalkers can Walk to other Planes pretty easily, right? tongue

And I think Nyk meant that we know that Gideon was on Ravnica before.

edited 2nd Jul '12 8:35:02 PM by LeChuck4

wearingglasses His work is never done. Since: Jan, 2001
His work is never done.
#22: Jul 2nd 2012 at 10:12:45 PM

Doubt Liliana gets a second one right after her brand new M13 iteration (who will rotate at the same time).

disruptorfe404 from New Zealand Since: Sep, 2011
#23: Jul 2nd 2012 at 10:17:19 PM

Garruk got his double-faced version right after his M12 version.

wearingglasses His work is never done. Since: Jan, 2001
His work is never done.
#24: Jul 2nd 2012 at 11:15:46 PM

Oh!

Wellp, you got me there.

disruptorfe404 from New Zealand Since: Sep, 2011
#25: Jul 2nd 2012 at 11:54:13 PM

I don't think we'll see another Liliana so soon though, I think it'll be one of the 'walkers that hasn't had three versions yet.


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