Code Geass: BotR III: Discussion

He should've poked Red with the gun once so that he knew that it was there before getting him to go.

Also, that sounds fine, but he wasn't just grabbing the gun. He was jabbing at his attacker's foot, and moving. Plus, he pretty much immediately applied torque to the gun, if he manages to grab it, and he has the element of surprise.

Also, only one hand was cuffed, and, to my knowledge, it wasn't cuffed to anything because it was going to be cuffed to the other hand.

edited 2nd Jul '12 12:34:22 PM by deathpigeon

The Agent was, to use D&D terms, using a 'readied' action. He was ready to shoot the second the gun was touched if there was any resistance to the jerk away.

I said "his hand" was cuffed to my knowledge. There's no pluralization.

The issue is that running down a street with a cuff on your arm makes you look like a criminal.

Regardless check the post. Once Red pulled out the gun, there was a sniper on him. Just a different location. I rolled the dice and the result was 6 to hit vs. a critical failure of 2 [as I assumed you were going to make a run as opposed to hit the foot for a second attack instead].

He's now on the ground in rather bad shape. You have a gun now which certainly counts for something but getting up and running would take time and you have a sniper ready to finish you given a second's notice.

edited 2nd Jul '12 12:45:59 PM by Fauxlosophe

That's true, but the man would definitely have the key on him, and my point was more that the cuff shouldn't be hampering him, and, in fact, his position, and the time he does this, should give him more of an element of surprise because he had followed the man's orders, up until that point, and acted weak. Plus, jamming his foot into the man's foot, which would happen immediately after grabbing the gun, should distract the guy, with the pain, buying him time to attempt to wrench the gun out of his captor's hand, and move to a better position.

Except he had serious reason to suspect you were an enemy agent or terrorist. He would have immediately told you he was with BMIS-11 otherwise rather than looking like he was a potential kidnapper or terrorist. The fact that this happened so soon afterwards? It's sort of exactly what he expected. I have talked to both Dark [since he is potentially playing an interrogator] and Rider [since he was curious and him possessing Oo C knowledge of this is harmless], both can testify, both to me asserting that he isn't name dropping the group specifically due to fear of this situation until he felt well covered by fellow agents and that there were fellow agents [though you haven't argued that].

Combat here is limited, I don't know if I explained it, but you get limited actions. I can look up the actual rules and check but grabbing the gun counts as one. Stepping on his foot is another. You shouldn't reasonably be able to perform infinite combat actions and then run away.

Regardless of what you did to the Blond Agent. Even if you did all three, the Sniper moved indepedantly, once he saw you move the gun into his view. This is necessary because if you didn't the Blond Agent would have pulled the trigger, likely in reaction to you having stepped on his toe and thus shot you in the back if you did not wrest the gun from his grip and move it away from your back.

edited 2nd Jul '12 12:53:01 PM by Fauxlosophe

True, but Red had previously made an effort to appear weak, to the man, what with the stammering and the begging not to be hurt.

I wasn't aware we were using any one specific rules for combat beyond that if you do something that requires speed, you need to roll against the other person's speed, or stuff like that. What system are we using?

Yeah, but that's a pretty reasonable thing to suspect if you captured an enemy agent with no viable means of fighting back. If anything, the agent was going to note that your character seemed rather accepting when it looked like he could well have been a terrorist, no panic or anything. It's not damning either way but really, really did nothing to disuade him that you might be a terrorist or agent.

It's explained in large part in the opening. Generally a turn allows for one movement and one attack, generally, I'll have some sort of improvised map using a Google Docs Excel sheet or if someone objects to that, some other means of moving around pieces. It's been a while, so I'd have to confirm but I think a second attack could be phased in for the movement. But generally, it takes more a roll of D&D style turns with Speed determining both initiative and ability to dodge more than how many actions you can take.

edited 2nd Jul '12 1:01:40 PM by Fauxlosophe

A normal person does not tend to argue with a person who put a gun to their back.

Ah, I see. That was unclear, at least to me.

Anyway, you got him good with the sniper.

Some might not, hence why it's not damning. Others would probably asked, who they were, what they wanted [if it's money, just take my wallet], asserted they had children or something. Red very much ran with the fact that he had a gun to his back. This isn't cut and dry evidence or anything but it reinforced a few suspicions that your character was sort of used to or at least prepared for getting a gun to his back, this is very much an in characer thing for the agent and not necessarily any fault on your part nor is it going to be used as evidence against him really though I planned the blond agent to bring it up in interrogation.

I took for granted that it was written into the rules of the previous game which I copy pasted to the sign up. Probably going to use Google Excel sheets again since they're the simplest way to get an easy grid and we don't need pretty graphics, again unless there's an objection. I'll see if I can find the final version of what I fine tuned but for the time being, I'm going to say roll speed+2d6 for initiative. Turns get 1 Move Action and 1 Attack Action. The rest of the details are on the sign up page [including why that still balances if you aren't moving]. Generally this is optimized for slashing and shooting at Robots and can be adapted for people [though in those cases I don't think I'll usually break out a google docs page], but grappling does get difficult. For the most part in that sort of a melee if it promises to be long, I might resolve it via PM then making a large narrative post.

edited 2nd Jul '12 1:15:07 PM by Fauxlosophe

True, but not arguing, plus the stammering and begging not to be hurt would be evidence toward him being a weak person who goes along with what he's told to do.

I probably just missed a part of it, or something... :/

No, I've looked and I missed it. In the last game I took for granted that everyone knew that since I explained it in various posts and didn't add it to the final rules for maths (Since stats are hard to remember and D&D style turns are not once established). Thankfully, that sort of thing didn't really have an impact here.

Also in this sort of situation, you're going to want to be detailed, since we're playing one of those any second someone could be dead games. You're going to want to say what you did with the gun since you're probably using both hands to bandage yourself. The Brit's are in a sort of awkward situation here.

And to further, clarify, did you try to grab the gun then crush his foot or grab the gun and run? Or do you want to do all three this once since I didn't clarify the rules? I need to go back and edit it make clear the situation since I only counted the one action.

edited 2nd Jul '12 1:20:18 PM by Fauxlosophe

Ok, I edited it to say what I'm doing with the gun.

Grab the gun, then crush his foot.

edited 2nd Jul '12 1:21:48 PM by deathpigeon

It'll be retconned in.

In the mean time, I'm going to give the rest time to reply so we don't fly too far ahead. Trying to stick to a 24 hour rule which I might reduce to a 12 hour deal if I keep seeing such quick responses. Bot R just tends to focus on the political elements so even if my posts are short I'm trying hard to avoid faux pas and continuity snarls [such as accidently addressing Mobius as Captain].

edited 2nd Jul '12 1:53:24 PM by Fauxlosophe

Ok.

Guys, my home was raided by bears, so I might be AWOL for the next few days.*

...So a bunch of large hairy gay guys raided your home?

Yes.

I shall have them murdered like the rest of my family.

So you can post in the discussion but not the rp?

Oddly, this is like the fourth RP I'm in right now where people keep posting in the discussion thread, (though most of the time it's to complain about everyone posting too fast), and staying mum in the RP itself.

People love their discussion threads.

...I'm confused... Is Red unconscious?

So, alternate universe and everything, but considering it's the 60's, and Daidarasaurus and the rest of Expoland was built in our 70's, I'd assume there's got to be at least one theme park with a pretty big roller coaster somewhere in Osaka.

Red is concious, he's trying to bandage himself. On the other hand, the agents are letting him finish bandaging himself so he doesn't pass out from blood loss but they're keeping multiple guns on him to keep it from happening again.

...You should've been more clear that they were pointing at Red as the word choice of "levelled his rifle" made me think the SOULLESS HUMAN Ginger was pointing it straight, and, thus, was pointing it at the IDIOT Blonde...

I sort of doubt it honestly. Tokyo has one but it is dead by the time the Anime starts. I don't feel like the Japan of this verse is a tourist trap. One might have been there already or made in the early stages of occupation [as well as in Tokyo and other Britannian settlements] but in either case, I don't think they'd have the tourism and business necessary to sustain themselves. Granted they have a bunch of Casinos and related Hotels but I assumed the latter was Plus I'm not really sure how much I'd like the tone of visiting one, I'd recommend either hitting a farm like the original idea was or just going to a mall or something.

Why would that even happen? I'll try to be more careful but generally assume anything particularly out of place or odd [like someone with no foreshadowing suddenly raising a gun to a teammate] is a typo or lack of detail on my part.

My thought was that it was either a case of the guy in the limo not being the person the Blonde was expecting, and from a different organization, or a case of You Have Outlived Your Usefulness...

edited 3rd Jul '12 3:15:56 PM by deathpigeon