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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: Jun 13th 2012 at 1:13:56 AM

The page on Frickin' Laser Beams combines two different tropes.

According to the header, it's supposed to be about how laser beams in fiction travel slowly (rather than at light speed) and can be traced, dodged, sidestepped, etc.

However, many of the examples are simply about laser beams being used because they're cool - in essence, Everythings Better With Lasers.

I think both are tropes and the name is most suitable for the latter, so I believe a trope split is in order. Let's create Slow Moving Laser (or something similar) as a subtrope.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2: Jun 14th 2012 at 5:37:08 AM

[up]I've always been wondering about the name. This form of trope transplant seems right to me.

Can someone write up a description for the trope that should be slotted in?

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#3: Jun 14th 2012 at 7:50:27 AM

So this trope is about IMA CALLIN IT A LAZER NOW?

There is also a current YKTTW "Laser Bolt" or something about non-beamy projectiles being called lasers. Probably because "laser" is an Inherently Cool Word.

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TheThnikkaman Phinatic Since: Apr, 2011
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#4: Jun 14th 2012 at 11:00:13 AM

[up][up][up] Lasers Are Not Light might also be a good name for the former

spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#5: Jun 14th 2012 at 1:25:23 PM

Can some examples go into Painfully Slow Projectile?

edited 14th Jun '12 1:25:32 PM by spacemarine50

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#6: Jun 14th 2012 at 4:22:38 PM

[up] Good catch. Yes, that seems to fit.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
DiamondWeapon Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Jun 15th 2012 at 3:32:01 AM

Painfully Slow Projectile is when a projectile moves so slow it makes it impractical as a weapon (the target can dodge it easily). Frickin' Laser Beams are not usually that slow, merely slow enough to be seen.

edited 15th Jun '12 3:32:13 AM by DiamondWeapon

AceOfSevens Since: Feb, 2010
#8: Jun 15th 2012 at 4:16:36 AM

They tend to move at about the speed of arrows, which probably originated the trope.

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#9: Jun 15th 2012 at 5:06:33 AM

[up][up] Like I said in the OP, there are two tropes mixed up here. Everythings Cooler With Lasers laser beams don't move particularly slow. However, many computer games have laser beams that move slow enough that you can dodge them, which makes them Painfully Slow Projectiles.

For instance, in Descent, lasers actually move slower than machine gun bullets.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#10: Jun 15th 2012 at 12:16:57 PM

Painfully Slow Projectile is usually an Acceptable Break from Reality used for gameplay reasons, and it can overlap with Frickin' Laser Beams. So some examples can and should go there, but they should still be on Frickin' Laser Beams as well.

Also, link to Laser Bullet YKTTW.

edited 15th Jun '12 12:20:26 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
TBeholder Our future is a madhouse from chthonic safety Since: Jan, 2001
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#11: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:37:33 PM

I say, throw a few hats at Laser Bullet and it's done. grin

edited 2nd Jul '12 9:37:46 PM by TBeholder

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#12: Jul 3rd 2012 at 2:53:16 AM

Okay, so are we agreed that Frickin' Laser Beams is to become "everything's cooler with lasers", and all examples of slow lasers or laser bullets are to be moved to Painfully Slow Projectile and the upcoming Laser Bullet?

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JoeSmo Since: Nov, 2010
troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#14: Jul 3rd 2012 at 1:15:25 PM

Frickin' Laser Beams is to become "everything's cooler with lasers"
I'm not sure about that bit.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#15: Jul 3rd 2012 at 1:36:23 PM

No, nothing should ever become Everything's Better With X. Redirect Frickin' Laser Beams to Laser Bullet to retain the inbounds. Redlink if possible.

abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#16: Jul 3rd 2012 at 1:39:06 PM

Like it or not, gratuitous use of laser beams for the sake of cool-ness is a trope.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#17: Aug 14th 2012 at 1:46:19 AM

Bump. Are we good with launching Laser Bullet?

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Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#18: Aug 14th 2012 at 3:04:38 AM

^^ No, Either it's gratuitous or it's done for the sake of coolness. Either precludes the other.

^ We're good with creating a page for Laser Bullet, but the YKTTW is not ready for launch.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#19: Aug 14th 2012 at 10:59:40 AM

We should not use the name Everythings Better With Lasers under any circumstances.

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#20: Aug 14th 2012 at 3:28:28 PM

Lasers Are Flashy? There's a bit of a humorous double-meaning there, and it puts some extra emphasis on the unrealistic-but-cool nature of the way they're often shown.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#21: Oct 19th 2012 at 11:59:14 AM

Clocking.

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HangSonDoong Since: Nov, 2011
#22: Oct 20th 2012 at 5:05:26 PM

I think the extraordinarily slow laser phenomenon should be distinguished from Painfully Slow Projectiles, given that the original problem was that lasers aren'y projectiles. It seems that two new trope pages are needed: a morph of this current page, titled something like Everything's Better With Lasers (discussion on better titles?), and a second page titled something like Suspiciously Slow Lasers.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#23: Dec 8th 2012 at 3:08:56 AM

Stale for two months, locking.

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