Misused: Frickin Laser Beams

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1 Spark913th Jun 2012 01:13:56 AM from Castle Wulfenbach , Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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The page on Frickin' Laser Beams combines two different tropes.

According to the header, it's supposed to be about how laser beams in fiction travel slowly (rather than at light speed) and can be traced, dodged, sidestepped, etc.

However, many of the examples are simply about laser beams being used because they're cool - in essence, Everythings Better With Lasers.

I think both are tropes and the name is most suitable for the latter, so I believe a trope split is in order. Let's create Slow Moving Laser (or something similar) as a subtrope.

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2 SeptimusHeap14th Jun 2012 05:37:08 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
[up]I've always been wondering about the name. This form of trope transplant seems right to me.

Can someone write up a description for the trope that should be slotted in?
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So this trope is about IMA CALLIN IT A LAZER NOW?

There is also a current YKTTW "Laser Bolt" or something about non-beamy projectiles being called lasers. Probably because "laser" is an Inherently Cool Word.
[up][up][up] Lasers Are Not Light might also be a good name for the former
Can some examples go into Painfully Slow Projectile?

edited 14th Jun '12 1:25:32 PM by spacemarine50

6 Spark914th Jun 2012 04:22:38 PM from Castle Wulfenbach , Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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[up] Good catch. Yes, that seems to fit.
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Painfully Slow Projectile is when a projectile moves so slow it makes it impractical as a weapon (the target can dodge it easily). Frickin' Laser Beams are not usually that slow, merely slow enough to be seen.

edited 15th Jun '12 3:32:13 AM by DiamondWeapon

They tend to move at about the speed of arrows, which probably originated the trope.
9 Spark915th Jun 2012 05:06:33 AM from Castle Wulfenbach , Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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[up][up] Like I said in the OP, there are two tropes mixed up here. Everythings Cooler With Lasers laser beams don't move particularly slow. However, many computer games have laser beams that move slow enough that you can dodge them, which makes them Painfully Slow Projectiles.

For instance, in Descent, lasers actually move slower than machine gun bullets.
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Painfully Slow Projectile is usually an Acceptable Break from Reality used for gameplay reasons, and it can overlap with Frickin' Laser Beams. So some examples can and should go there, but they should still be on Frickin' Laser Beams as well.

Also, link to Laser Bullet YKTTW.

edited 15th Jun '12 12:20:26 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
11 TBeholder2nd Jul 2012 09:37:33 PM from chthonic safety
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I say, throw a few hats at Laser Bullet and it's done. grin

edited 2nd Jul '12 9:37:46 PM by TBeholder

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12 Spark93rd Jul 2012 02:53:16 AM from Castle Wulfenbach , Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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Okay, so are we agreed that Frickin' Laser Beams is to become "everything's cooler with lasers", and all examples of slow lasers or laser bullets are to be moved to Painfully Slow Projectile and the upcoming Laser Bullet?
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Suppose so.
Frickin' Laser Beams is to become "everything's cooler with lasers"
I'm not sure about that bit.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
No, nothing should ever become Everythings Better With X. Redirect Frickin' Laser Beams to Laser Bullet to retain the inbounds. Redlink if possible.
Like it or not, gratuitous use of laser beams for the sake of cool-ness is a trope.
17 SeptimusHeap14th Aug 2012 01:46:19 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Bump. Are we good with launching Laser Bullet?
^^ No, Either it's gratuitous or it's done for the sake of coolness. Either precludes the other.

^ We're good with creating a page for Laser Bullet, but the YKTTW is not ready for launch.

19 nrjxll14th Aug 2012 10:59:40 AM , Relationship Status: Not war
We should not use the name Everythings Better With Lasers under any circumstances.
20 Xtifr14th Aug 2012 03:28:28 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Lasers Are Flashy? There's a bit of a humorous double-meaning there, and it puts some extra emphasis on the unrealistic-but-cool nature of the way they're often shown.
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I think the extraordinarily slow laser phenomenon should be distinguished from Painfully Slow Projectiles, given that the original problem was that lasers aren'y projectiles. It seems that two new trope pages are needed: a morph of this current page, titled something like Everything's Better With Lasers (discussion on better titles?), and a second page titled something like Suspiciously Slow Lasers.
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