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The initial OP posted below covers it well enough: the premise of this thread is that men's issues exist. Don't bother posting if you don't believe there is such a thing.
Here's hoping this isn't considered too redundant. I've noticed that our existing threads about sexism tend to get bogged down in Oppression Olympics or else wildly derailed, so I thought I'd make a thread specifically to talk about discrimination issues that disproportionately affect men.
No Oppression Olympics here, okay? No saying "But that's not important because women suffer X which is worse!" And no discussing these issues purely in terms of how much better women have it. Okay? If the discussion cannot meaningfully proceed without making a comparison to male and female treatment, that's fine, but on the whole I want this thread to be about how men are harmed by society and how we can fix it. Issues like:
- The male-only draft (in countries that have one)
- Circumcision
- Cavalier attitudes toward men's pain and sickness, AKA "Walk it off!"
- The Success Myth, which defines a man's desirability by his material success. Also The Myth of Men Not Being Hot, which denies that men can be sexually attractive as male beings.
- Sexual abuse of men.
- Family law.
- General attitudes that men are dangerous or untrustworthy.
I could go on making the list, but I think you get the idea.
Despite what you might have heard about feminists not caring about men, it's not true. I care about men. Patriarchy sucks for them as much as it sucks for women, in a lot of ways. So I'm putting my keyboard where my mouth is and making a thread for us to all care about men.
Also? If you're male and think of something as a men's issue, by golly that makes it a men's issue fit for inclusion in this thread. I might disagree with you as to the solution, but as a woman I'm not going to tell you you have no right to be concerned about it. No "womansplaining" here.
Edited by nombretomado on Dec 15th 2019 at 5:19:34 AM
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It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
The problem is that BYU doesn't present their information as specific to Mormon lifestyle and then conservative politicians jump on their studies for justification behind absurd and sexist laws that hurt both men and women.
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Yet another easy way to expose their bias and make a fool out of them.
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edited 12th Mar '15 1:12:23 PM by Euodiachloris
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It's not working like that regretfully.
Check out how they talk advertise their library.
or their sports team. While hiding their own sex abuse scandals.
Their professors have a history of racism according to Mormon theology
Mind you I am keeping this in context of the thread because this is a way men are indoctrinated with very sexist and dangerous ideas. Then they go and act on them and people get hurt.
edited 12th Mar '15 1:07:42 PM by Gabrael
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Basically canon
It's pretty simple. For men, having lots of sex is seen as "masculine" and praised, child-raising is seen as "feminine" and disparaged. For women, reverse "praised" and "disparaged" accordingly. It's a bit odd, yeah, but toxic masculinity works in mysterious and often nonsensical ways.
edited 12th Mar '15 1:32:20 PM by Midna
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http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2015/03/problem-baby-boys-china-150305051058735.html
By the looks of it, there will be a full generation of single and sexually frustrated men in China if the male/female birth rate continues uneven like this.
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Isn't that what happened in Japan?
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The law in the night
I think Japan is a bid different than China regarding sexually frustrated males, in China there are already more men than women, even if every women married or got into a relationship you'd still have millions of single men, this is a trend the Chinese government is trying to reverse but by the looks of it the damage is already done and it will take a long time to undo.
The one child policy completely fucked things up combined with traditional preferences, Chinese men are being forced to either import women or stay single and I think the commercialization of porn still illegal.
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A procrastination in of itself
Japan it's not about a shortage in the number of women compared to men, it's about Japanese gender roles being some of the most absurd and restrictive in existence, with many Japanese men deciding it's not worth dealing with such bullshit and giving up on relationships completely.
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In time, it could be a good thing.
With a lot of men finding themselves without any possibilities for their relationships it is just going to exacerbate the problems of sexism in the one and only way that gets people off their asses: money.
When they get old and find that their tons of men are neither getting enough families to substain the aged Chinese population they will be basically forced to give more opportunities to women to thrive economically unless they cannot mantain the older population, which will inevitably lead to giving them more rights and just bringing about more equality even if by sheer immediate necessity.
But right now, 33 million. Wow. just wow. it was mentioned they "import" women. From where...? what...
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I'm not sure a population that has more men than women would actually increase employment and financial opportunities for women. I mean, just by numbers alone that would be untrue.
Also, as for the "where" I mean, there are criminal trade originations that deal in the sale of women and children, would there not? Last I checked we haven't completely abolished that problem. Therefore, bride importation would be possible, unfortunately.
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Not more men than women. I am talking about time and financial situations.
Right now, women in China suffer a lot trying to be considered for social and economical advances. But when the current strongly male population rises another strong male population, then they will find that only the men will not suffice to keep up the non working population, hence forcing them to give more relevance to women economically.
Not a situation of disparaging genders so much as it is one of population numbers and age difference.
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We haven't even remotely abolished that problem. Sex slavery and trafficking is a thriving criminal industry even in the United States.
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And even within itnote , no doubt.
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Most internal U.S. trafficking has to do with runaway children, iirc.
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There was a Cracked article about it. One of their best.
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Is it true that when little boys pick on little girls, it's because there is a chance that they like them and just aren't sure how to show it? Such as 13 and under? In high school I know that is more of an "I may harass you but I would still have sex with you if given the chance" issue, and that sexual desire =/= "liking", but I am not sure about the younger ages.
What so you gentlemen think?
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There's a chance on the basis that they're such a chance with anyone who's been improperly taught how to carry out human interaction. My memories of being that age had the girls and boys largely not interact with each other at all, when I've dealt with younger kids as I've gotten older I haven't seen that happen but I've mainly dealt with such kids in the context of my boarding school and normally has never exactly been a thing there.
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I've heard of the phenomenon but never had the desire to engage in such behavior myself nor have I seen other kids do it.
If it's something that still happens we should discourage it because that sort of thing can only red poor behavior and crappy men the long run. Makes more sense to teach kids how to better articulate their feelings.
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Probably yes. If there's a culture among the boys that girls are icky and not to be interacted with (especially not on an equal level), liking one might be expressed in such negative behaviour instead.
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For children (depending on their emotional maturity) I would say...maybe.
For teenagers and those closer to ages 9 and above I would say they simply have not learned empathy yet and thus they actually do find it funny to mock others. Or at least, they have not learned to extend their empathy beyond those who are close to them
edited 23rd Mar '15 7:41:09 AM by Aszur
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Well, if Mormon men and women choose to accept/embrace that lifestyle, what you gonna do?
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