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Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1: Jun 7th 2012 at 8:04:16 PM

Seems weird to me that Blooper only has a scant few examples. Bloopers are all over the place, and yet we've only gathered a bajillionth of one percent. Hell, even on something as simple as Wheel Of Fortune, the Blooper list on the trivia tab is more than a screen long.

I say call this an Omnipresent Trope and remove the example list. There are already dozens of sites that list bloopers in every medium, so maybe we could link to some of those. If a work has a blooper, put it on the work's trivia tab but not on the Blooper page itself.

ETA: This may double as a "Not Thriving" since 25 people and 90 links seems really low for something so omnipresent.

edited 7th Jun '12 8:10:26 PM by Twentington

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#2: Jun 7th 2012 at 8:41:58 PM

Thing is, by definition a blooper isn't an actual trope. Bloopers are mistakes. Trivia stuff. Blooper Reel is more of a trope.

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Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#3: Jun 8th 2012 at 10:58:53 AM

We shouldn't catalog bloopers. Other sites already do so exhaustively. (And they're not tropes.)

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#4: Jun 8th 2012 at 12:03:01 PM

[up]So cut the list from the Blooper page?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5: Jun 9th 2012 at 10:28:15 AM

One question: Is blooper medium-specific?

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#6: Jun 9th 2012 at 3:36:03 PM

Not really. It does occur far more often in live-action, but mistakes can happen during animation too.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#7: Jun 14th 2012 at 7:43:26 AM

I'd rather keep the examples on Blooper (they are Trivia after all), but I think that this needs some serious Entry Pimping if it has so few wicks. And maybe a few redirects to make pimping easier.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
VeronicaWakefield Since: Oct, 2011
#8: Jul 9th 2012 at 7:55:45 PM

This is more of a term definition than a trope. Pretty much any performed medium can have bloopers, even things like the nightly news or a reality show, and a list of them would be effectively infinite. Heck, even just a slight, unremarked stutter over a single word would qualify.

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#9: Jul 9th 2012 at 10:15:44 PM

We're not here to catalog bloopers. I think it's harmless, but I don't see why we should go out of our way to entry-pimp it. If people really want to add things to it, that's fine, but I don't think it qualifies as a need. I see no real reason to encourage, discourage, or even, really, waste time on this. It's got nearly 100 wicks. I think it's fine the way it is.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Jul 10th 2012 at 12:53:35 AM

[up]Yes, I agree there. Whether bloopers has examples or not is of rather little overall effect, especially if they are shunted off on the trivia tab.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
peccantis Since: Oct, 2010
#11: Jul 10th 2012 at 7:44:12 AM

[up][up][up][up] I thought "blooper" specifically means a boo-boo that is presented for humorous value by the producers?

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#12: Jul 10th 2012 at 7:59:09 AM

[up]That's just presenting a blooper, often in a Blooper Reel.

edited 10th Jul '12 7:59:37 AM by Feather7603

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peccantis Since: Oct, 2010
#13: Jul 10th 2012 at 2:55:58 PM

So we basically have a trope page for any and all tiny little mistakes a somehow acted work can ever have? Uh...

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#14: Jul 10th 2012 at 2:59:26 PM

It's a trivia page, not a trope page. So, why not?... :)

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#15: Jul 10th 2012 at 3:31:25 PM

I don't think every, single example will be added. We can probably re-evaluate if the page becomes too crowded, but until then I don't see a problem.

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#16: Jul 12th 2012 at 7:53:16 AM

[up] Or maybe just the most memorable ones, though that'd take a bit of discussion to decide.

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#17: Jul 12th 2012 at 10:50:20 AM

Given that we're willing to collect gigantic lists of "things that some fan somewhere has been able to interpret as gay/lesbian innuendo", I don't see a problem with collecting lists of actual mistakes in works. It's not really on-mission, but it is at least related to works, and it's not subjective nonsense. I think we can let this expand if it wants, even to the point of having medium-specific subpages, should that become necessary. I just don't think it's important enough to justify a big special effort to expand it. I think the status quo is fine here.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#18: Jul 12th 2012 at 10:53:16 AM

Also, the problem here was underuse not overuse (=misuse). Except than by entry pimping bloopers, I don't see how to fix this.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#19: Jul 12th 2012 at 11:31:08 AM

To quote Fast Eddie from his lock comment on another thread: "It is just trivia. We don't care if it thrives."

Suggest going ahead and closing this thread as well.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#21: Jul 12th 2012 at 12:27:38 PM

Yes. I think we can lock this up.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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