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I've said this before but I've occasionally thought a superhero coup might be in the Marvel world's best interest.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."

It's not like superheroes know anything about being leaders of state either.

We've never got a good look at the rest of the world's superteams, right? It's always USA, Canada, UK and Japan. Fictional countries like Wakanda and Latveria have more superheroes coming from them than most other countries together.

edited 28th Jun '16 7:52:26 AM by LordofLore

You really don't think Captain America (once he gets de-HYDRA'd, of course) wouldn't run the country better than the people who actually run it?

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."

No, I don't. Because he has yet to show me he knows anything about running a country. Being a leader of a superhero team and being a leader of state are not the same thing.

No, because Cap goes with his heart and what's "right" for him most of the time which isn't a good fit for running a country and having to make hard choices for the greater good.

There are jokes about Dazzler being the president in the future and I'd trust her a 100 times more than Cap.

edited 28th Jun '16 7:57:59 AM by LordofLore

Well that's a cynical read on politics. "Cap would do what's right so he's unfit to lead a country."

Probably true, though.

As for this superhero coup, gonna point to Red Son's utopia.

The poster above said what's "right for him". Not what's right for the country.

Except for that time when they were literally the same thing (when Johns wrote the Avengers and the UN made the Avengers a nation for...reasons).

Gee, that was sure an idea that didn't go anywhere.

well i totally called that as the cause of hydra cap!!!

" I did the right thing, didn't I? It all worked out in the end." "In the end? Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends."

Well I wasn't thinking of Supreme Leader Cap, more like President Rogers. He would presumably have to be accountable to some body, be it Congress or whatever. Whatever his ideals, he would have to get approval and help from other parties with different ideas.

Of course, I personally would favor some sort of superhero autocracy but Cap would never go for that.

edited 28th Jun '16 8:14:51 AM by Nikkolas

Axel Alonso spoils Captain America: Steve Rogers #2 the day before it comes out. It's pretty much what everyone guessed: Kobik messed with his history under orders from the Red Skull. I would have been surprised had it not been that.

edited 28th Jun '16 8:18:40 AM by alliterator

I'm not talking about the type of government he'd be running.Steve just does not have the political know how to run a country. Period.

We've already had President Cap thanks to the Ultimate version(which was bad) and Tony has been the Secretary of Defense(which sucked and was part of the reason behind CWI).

edited 28th Jun '16 8:23:15 AM by LordofLore

Wasn't Ultimate Cap an asshole? I never read any of that stuff.

He got better.

Yeah he became President after the Ultimatum & Death of Spider-Man where he became a better person & closer in line to 616 Cap. Though I never read any Ultimate series before the recent Ultimate Comics line so I have not seen how he acted much before.

Also bout the spoilers for the new Cap issue. Damn, it really makes all the controversy fucking stupid or pointless at least.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

Fucking called it. Going to be fun checking my dashboard on Tumblr to see how people spin themselves in a tizzy in order to maintain their hysteria.

Well yeah, all the alarm bells quited down when Alonso or whoever said it wasn't a twist and that this was who Cap had been from the start. That pretty much meant there was 100% a twist involving reality and time manipulation because Alonso is as easy to see when he's bullshitting as Bendis. Still probably not the best story to tell on a anniversary year and killing off(?) Jack Flag pretty much means Steve took a nosedive in my personal character ranking.

To continue the discussion, if they wanted to get Cap out of the USA for a year or two so they could tell the stories they want they could always appoint him as the new ambassador to the UN and give him a book taking him all across the world with Sharon and some others.

edited 28th Jun '16 9:54:26 AM by LordofLore

I did try to say to people to give it a month xd

" I did the right thing, didn't I? It all worked out in the end." "In the end? Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends."

"There isn't a twist" was as obvious a lie as "Joesph is totally Magneto" or "The Spidey in the black suit isn't necessarily Miles".

It did seem the obvious explanation given all the pieces at play.

Anyway, speaking of superhero law I finally read more than a few issues of Slott She-Hulk thanks to Marvel Unlimited.

It is delightful.

I do kind of wonder why all the issues have weird photorealisticish pinupesque covers. Did Marvel have no faith in the book?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers

Or "Doom isn't involved with things leading up to Secret Wars", "Jane Foster isn't the new Thor", "The new Wasp isn't named Hope"(she's named the russian word for Hope), etc...

I did like, though, that Nick Spencer was all "Everything is pretty much connected and also, heeeey, remember how in the last storyline was all about a Cosmic Cube, I'm not saying that's connected, no sir."

Marvel has made a lot of weird decisions regarding covers back then. There was that Emma Frost mini-series that had cheesecake covers, even though it was about Emma Frost when she was a teenager.

edited 28th Jun '16 10:18:08 AM by alliterator

Marvel covers from the mid 00s are almost uniformly painfully generic and non-indicative of the book's content.